: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:24 pm  

vastman wrote:

He can't handle big clubs with big name players according to Hull fans (thanks for the CCup you got us NOT). So he is of no use to you as he might actually sign a load of local British kids and make a team out of em.

Seriously, a great coach but not for Warrington - he needs a free hand and I don't think he would get that at Warrington.

Tony Smith is probably your best bet.

That is what I have always thought; functions best as an 'underdog' coach and wouldn't deal with all the egos in the Warrington dressing room.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:32 pm  

tino wrote:

why not axe lowes then give nigel wright, say, 7 games in charge, then offer him a permanent contract

He was coaching Trinity under 19's last year, he is such a rookie he makes Lowes look like Wayne Bennett, get a grip

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:35 pm  

vastman wrote:

:shock: He was coaching Trinity under 19's last year, he is such a rookie he makes Lowes look like Wayne Bennett, get a grip

I think you will find that was a joke referring to the appointment of Lowes last year.

Re: Which coach should replace Lowes poll : Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:53 pm  

Lowes Out Hanley In wrote:

can we have one please?

Possibilities;

Noble
Hanley
Edwards
Smith
Folkes
Cullen
Morgan

The problem with Cullen, Lowes Hanley is they aren't proven coaches with a track record behind them. We've had years of that & our club should be setting the standard in coaching, not being a training ground for NL1 people looking to learn their SL trade with us.

Edwards won't leave where he is.

When Smiths name came up (I'll dig this out) I said there's 2 problems with him. 1) He couldn;t get the Leeds & Saints lads to sit on the same bench in the World Cup. Would he be someone who could win the whole dressing room.

2) his style is for mobile, ball playing forwards, hit the collision, get the ball played straight away. Whereas our team is spending 18 months going in the opposite direction & becoming battering rams. It'll take 2 seasons to get the personnel right & to adapt to the style.

We need a rated coach with decent experience who has a background in specialist defence.

The only one who fits that bill is Trevor Gilmeister.

Oh & panties can be in charge of the web site.

Re: Which coach should replace Lowes poll : Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:02 pm  

Steve51 wrote:

Oh & panties can be in charge of the web site.

Why do i get all the exciting jobs?

I want something that I can get my teeth into, ie ordering the sausage rolls and hotdogs or even sorting the cheerleaders out.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:18 pm  

One huge problem with Lowes, from the outset, is that he was a part of the Cullen regime that was ultimately deemed not good enough to take Warrington to the allegedly achievable 'next level'.

As assistant to Cullen, he was obviously associated with the underachievement of the side. On being given the coach's job himself, it is surely unsurprising that he has felt the need to develop his own way of doing things in order to distance himself from what had gone before.

I had hopes that this might be a positive move - sadly, what we have seen is that the team are performing even less effectively than under Cullen. If there are the problems within the squad that have been widely mentioned, then the board are surely culpable for failing to recognise that merely promoting a member of the existing staff would be extremely unlikely to sort this out. You can’t suddenly say ‘you can’t do this or that anymore’, with any degree of believability, when you were standing round watching it happen in the first place.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:20 pm  

Wolfette wrote:

Looking at our Last few fixtures, I don't blame anyone for moaning at the mo, last time we won was Leeds in August 2008.

If I'm doing me sums right the Leeds game is the only game Lowes has won under his new contract as head coach.

G. With regards Hanley.. Do you think he'll stick with it. I can understand the appeal of having someone who won't stand for any messing; but has he gone a season as coach without either getting fed up, or the club geting fed up with him ?

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:14 pm  

Steve51 wrote:

If I'm doing me sums right the Leeds game is the only game Lowes has won under his new contract as head coach.

G. With regards Hanley.. Do you think he'll stick with it. I can understand the appeal of having someone who won't stand for any messing; but has he gone a season as coach without either getting fed up, or the club geting fed up with him ?

hanley has no sense of humour what so ever, the one thing you truly need if your to take charge of warrington.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:46 pm  

worthing wire wrote:

If there are the problems within the squad that have been widely mentioned, then the board are surely culpable for failing to recognise that merely promoting a member of the existing staff would be extremely unlikely to sort this out.

This is why I never believe the rumours that go round. Rumours have always been easy to start and spread round the pubs, but now the internet is around it is even easier.

If the happenings behind the scenes were so bad, it would have been sorted. I'm going to touch back on the nostalgia piece again, when people have great memories about the late 80's teams, yet these kinds of rumours still went round then, and the team performed at a similar level to current Wire teams in the league.

If we lose, the fans get on players backs, yet IMO, we didn;t lose the other night due to lack of effort. Every time we lose it is down to lack of effort according to many, but could it just be that things like concentration, skill levels, fitness levels, tactics and decision making etc. are to blame?

Monas and King have been two of the biggest flops for years at Warrington IMO, yet I wouldn't question their effort.

Briers and Gleeson get a hell of a lot of stick, yet between them they have been one of the most dynamic attacking combinations in SL for the last few years.
It has now become accepted that Warrington have a culture issue, and the amount of times I have heard rumours from my mate who doesn't use the internet forums, when it is clear it has been started by the usual suspects is unbelievable. People take these rumours as gospel, spread them round, and then it makes it easier to believe it next time.

Bradford and Leeds have had their fair share of off field disciplinary problems, yet because they have won, there isn't an issue.

As a team, we just aren't good enough.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:09 pm  

Dave T wrote:

This is why I never believe the rumours that go round. Rumours have always been easy to start and spread round the pubs, but now the internet is around it is even easier.

If the happenings behind the scenes were so bad, it would have been sorted. I'm going to touch back on the nostalgia piece again, when people have great memories about the late 80's teams, yet these kinds of rumours still went round then, and the team performed at a similar level to current Wire teams in the league.

If we lose, the fans get on players backs, yet IMO, we didn;t lose the other night due to lack of effort. Every time we lose it is down to lack of effort according to many, but could it just be that things like concentration, skill levels, fitness levels, tactics and decision making etc. are to blame?

Monas and King have been two of the biggest flops for years at Warrington IMO, yet I wouldn't question their effort.

Briers and Gleeson get a hell of a lot of stick, yet between them they have been one of the most dynamic attacking combinations in SL for the last few years.
It has now become accepted that Warrington have a culture issue, and the amount of times I have heard rumours from my mate who doesn't use the internet forums, when it is clear it has been started by the usual suspects is unbelievable. People take these rumours as gospel, spread them round, and then it makes it easier to believe it next time.

Bradford and Leeds have had their fair share of off field disciplinary problems, yet because they have won, there isn't an issue.

As a team, we just aren't good enough.

Yet we have a group of talented players??????