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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:53 pm  
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Not trolling but the problem with Warrington is what has been wrong with Warrington for as long as i can remember. Ignoring the youth. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making big signings as long as there is a squad to back them up. A squad, not a starting 13. Apart from the odd trophy, Wigan, Saints and Leeds will always be ahead until this is addressed.


I think we’re starting to see some progress on this, but it’s taken far, far too long.
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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:00 pm  
No more signings please until we start getting the best out of what we have and start looking like a committed team.

You don't need signings to show enthusiasm in defence or to have a few planned moves in attack.
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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:17 pm  
Pie_Eyter wrote:
Not trolling but the problem with Warrington is what has been wrong with Warrington for as long as i can remember. Ignoring the youth. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making big signings as long as there is a squad to back them up. A squad, not a starting 13. Apart from the odd trophy, Wigan, Saints and Leeds will always be ahead until this is addressed.


I tried telling them this only this week, but it's still the coach's fault apparently.

I've already said, if I was a multi millionaire owner of Wire, the first, and most important, thing I'd be all over, is setting up a UK leading RL academy, which would massively dwarf anything that has been seen before in this country - the only common denominator with all the SL winners (apart from Bradford, and they cheated), is having a core of academy produced players - coaches are pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things - having a regular influx of top quality young players is crucial.
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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:50 pm  
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having a regular influx of top quality young players is crucial.


That is so right. The obvious answer to that is that we don't play them when we've got 'em.
This might be right at times but to be honest over the years we've not really produced enough young players that shout out "you have to pick me".
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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:00 pm  
Our academy has just beaten reigning champs Leeds. It has regularly mixed it with the big 3 for the past decade. England academy and origin academy is usually heavily stacked with Warrington lads. The academy set up is actually very good (and has had lots spent on it) it just seems the progress from academy to first team is where we let ourselves down badly.
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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:25 pm  
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Our academy has just beaten reigning champs Leeds. It has regularly mixed it with the big 3 for the past decade. England academy and origin academy is usually heavily stacked with Warrington lads. The academy set up is actually very good (and has had lots spent on it) it just seems the progress from academy to first team is where we let ourselves down badly.


There has been a policy at Wire of signing and then playing squad fillers.

These players are then selected for first team games instead of our Academy lads being blooded.

Hence the Academy player`s development is stunted and they are eventually discarded as not good enough.

Russell and Minikin are two examples in our current set-up, who are not Super League standard players, and shouldn`t be employed by Warrington.
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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:22 pm  
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There has been a policy at Wire of signing and then playing squad fillers.

These players are then selected for first team games instead of our Academy lads being blooded.

Hence the Academy player`s development is stunted and they are eventually discarded as not good enough.

Russell and Minikin are two examples in our current set-up, who are not Super League standard players, and shouldn`t be employed by Warrington.


I’d add Matautia to that list.
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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:20 am  
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There has been a policy at Wire of signing and then playing squad fillers.

These players are then selected for first team games instead of our Academy lads being blooded.

Hence the Academy player`s development is stunted and they are eventually discarded as not good enough.

Russell and Minikin are two examples in our current set-up, who are not Super League standard players, and shouldn`t be employed by Warrington.


I’d agree to a point, I was very against the signing of Minikin and Russell at the time (Minkin has been shocking imo, Russell has done pretty well all things considered) as I thought it would take up first team opportunity’s for academy players. However, if those players aren’t deemed good enough to go on to first team, you need to fill in on squad players from outside the club.

No young players are leaving and going on to do great things elsewhere, surely we would see that if it was just a case of the club not giving the opportunity to good young players? That suggests the academy system at Warrington has not been producing good enough players, blooding players who are not good enough will achieve nothing. When a young player has come through, they’ve been played once deemed ready - Thewlis, Wrench etc, i’d fully expect them to go on to sign for another SL club if they left us. Green has looked comfortable considering he is only 18 and has been given opportunity - frustratingly we do sometimes see these players sitting in the bench for 80 minutes though, which I feel is pointless. However I think Powell has shown he will use young players if they are good enough - Thewlis & Wrench regularly playing ahead of Lineham and Minkin over the past couple of years as the example.

Post covid the academy team has been top 3 each year in the comp, so we are starting to see some consistency, before that they were very up and down. Australia tours are starting every 2 years which I think will be great for development, The Player Development Pathway is getting lots of the towns 11-18 year olds having coaching sessions with the club on a regular basis which is another positive - more players getting greater exposure to the club and quality coaching sessions.

I think we will see the situation continue to improve over the next couple of years.
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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:54 am  
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examples in our current set-up, who are not Super League standard players, and shouldn`t be employed by Warrington.

And who wanted to sign them two plus Mata'utia? Powell. Despite DSM telling you he's completely blameless.
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Re: Recruitment rumours and links : Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:12 am  
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Despite DSM telling you he's completely blameless.


Please provide quotes where I've said this.... :roll:
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