Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:44 am  

Steve Price Defence coach, Daryl Powell attack coach would do us nicely.

[Winslade's Offload]

Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:22 pm  

I can understand fans wanting to see fast free flowing attacking rugby but I think the team needs to build a strong platform first. Concentrating on defence is certainly not very exciting, but nobody loses a game if they nil the opposition. If they get into a routine of playing a tight defence it gives players the confidence that they have the structures and will more than likely take home the points as well. Then slowly introduce a bit more risk into their play. The SL trophy is a knock out competition for roughly the top half of the teams, so it doesn't actually start until we have played ? 26 games. So plenty of time to develop a bit of attacking flair as long as we pick up the points along the way.

That does assume SL will not be disrupted this year (unlikely imo) and that SP is capable of developing the tactics and can in his words " throw a bit of shape" at the opposition (not hopeful on that either).

Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:28 pm  

Winslade's Offload wrote:

I can understand fans wanting to see fast free flowing attacking rugby but I think the team needs to build a strong platform first. Concentrating on defence is certainly not very exciting, but nobody loses a game if they nil the opposition. If they get into a routine of playing a tight defence it gives players the confidence that they have the structures and will more than likely take home the points as well.

Top teams can manage both. Why can't we?

(usual suspects)
Leeds +120
Wigan +84
Saints +65

Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:46 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Top teams can manage both. Why can't we?

(usual suspects)
Leeds +120
Wigan +84
Saints +65

To be fair those three teams are pretty much unchanged from last year.

Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:48 pm  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

The second half was certainly an improvement but it wouldn't have been good enough to beat most SL sides. Nonetheless, some positives :

More offloading, especially from Cooper
Widdop and Austin both taking the line on
Ben Currie looks to be regaining pace and confidence

errm. That's about it.

Fair to add: good performance by Toby King, clever finish by Lineham to avoid being bundled into touch

Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:24 pm  

moving on... wrote:

To be fair those three teams are pretty much unchanged from last year.

So are we, bar an upgrade from Patton to Widdop, it's the same side
Price wants to bore the opposition (and us speccies), into submission.
No good for the speccy that wants to be entertained. If I want result rugby, I'll read it in the paper, the following morning.

Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:27 pm  

We ought to have beat Pies with 12 men.
Beat Saints
Beat Cas
Beat Hull

These were the 4 favoured teams plus ourselves.
Where is the threat for 2020?...Leeds??

Perhaps we underestimate how good Wire actually are.

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Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:18 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

So are we, bar an upgrade from Patton to Widdop, it's the same side
Price wants to bore the opposition (and us speccies), into submission.
No good for the speccy that wants to be entertained. If I want result rugby, I'll read it in the paper, the following morning.

The attacking play is the area that SP doesn't seem capable of delivering. Its hardly surprising he knows about defence because he comes from the NRL, but Wire seem pretty clueless when they get within 20 yards of the opposition line.

But I think the point is that early doors, Wire may be best focussing on defence and playing low risk until they get a few games under their belt and a bit of confidence. The side has been disrupted at the start of the season; Gelling has come in...and gone out, to be replaced by a novice. Widdop didn't appear for the first two games, Hill managed to get a three week holiday on the naughty step and we moved Ratchford to SO and brought in Matty Ashton...who then got injured. So why not try and keep a settled side, play low risk football and concentrate on defence. Then start to move the ball around and take a few risks when they gain a few points and a lot more confidence. (Not that I think SP will actually be able to deliver that).

Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:48 pm  

The thing is, if you have a great defence like we have(bar the Leeds fiasco)then you should be willing to try all sorts in attack and not worry too much about making a mistake as your defence will back you up. Does price not get this?

Re: Tonight’s game v Hull. : Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:03 pm  

We have two Aston Martins, but our coach is using them as Morris Marinas