Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:31 pm  

Timmy the Koi wrote:

I'm sorry thats how you feel i've come across mate, its not what i intended obviously.

THat's fine mate, no worries at all. I just put the above as it's those types of drivers that have caused me to have my accident last May and also a series of near misses that have made me very weary, not to mention nervous, about driving.

Timmy the Koi wrote:

The point i was making was that its the inappropriate speeding/dangerous driving that are the real crimes, not the incidents i pointed out. The redlight thing should have been more specific, i was talking about somewhere like Crosfields roundabout, where you can see every exit, and at a time when there is really no one on the roads, if i am not 110% certain, then i would never take a risk. Anyone who knows me, would know thats not how i come across. If i'm guilty of anything, its some enthusiastic driving out in Wales or other remote B-roads, or track days, but thats because i am a considerate driver, with a performance car who enjoys driving, so i do it away from the public. The 90mph motorway point i was making, was to indicate that when conditions allow, it is perfectly safe to move at 90mph with the traffic, as long as everyone is leaving the required stopping distances etc. I'm not a tailgaiter and i will never cut anybody up. Looking back, i see how it could have been seen as bragging, but it wasn't, i was merely trying to get people to think about this mantra that speed kills. It does, but only when it is dangerous and inappropriate to do so.

It did sound like bragging, hence the way I worded my post, but you've explained in more details what you meant so I understand what you should have put. I did go off on one, so I appreciate your calm and collected reply.

Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:23 pm  

Mass Effect wrote:

THat's fine mate, no worries at all. I just put the above as it's those types of drivers that have caused me to have my accident last May and also a series of near misses that have made me very weary, not to mention nervous, about driving.

It did sound like bragging, hence the way I worded my post, but you've explained in more details what you meant so I understand what you should have put. I did go off on one, so I appreciate your calm and collected reply.

Not a problem mate, i realise that its a subject that splits people, and is can also be rather emotive.

Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:21 am  

Teessidewire wrote:

It's also worth noting that the Police do not give the tickets out around the HJ, they are Wardens employed by the Council and nothing to do with the Police.

wrong! i once got a ticket from the police, near the HJ, Not a warden, i fought and won the case as i was parked correctly!
so yes police do give tickets!

Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:47 am  

I am more aware than most that the Police give tickets out. What I was trying to say was that the persons currently giving tickets out around the HJ on a Sunday are council employed wardens. The power to do it was given to them some years ago in an attempt to release police officers for more pressing matters (and I'm not on about speeders before anyone says it).

Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:09 am  

It's about time they started enforcing the 20MPH limit around Orford. They need to do it on Sandy Lane near St Stephens as well.

And whilst they are at it, pull the morons that rev up and down sandy lane on their quad bikes :@ but that's another rant for another day.

Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:20 am  

Timmy the Koi wrote:

I'm sorry thats how you feel i've come across mate, its not what i intended obviously. The point i was making was that its the inappropriate speeding/dangerous driving that are the real crimes, not the incidents i pointed out. The redlight thing should have been more specific, i was talking about somewhere like Crosfields roundabout, where you can see every exit, and at a time when there is really no one on the roads, if i am not 110% certain, then i would never take a risk. Anyone who knows me, would know thats not how i come across. If i'm guilty of anything, its some enthusiastic driving out in Wales or other remote B-roads, or track days, but thats because i am a considerate driver, with a performance car who enjoys driving, so i do it away from the public. The 90mph motorway point i was making, was to indicate that when conditions allow, it is perfectly safe to move at 90mph with the traffic, as long as everyone is leaving the required stopping distances etc. I'm not a tailgaiter and i will never cut anybody up. Looking back, i see how it could have been seen as bragging, but it wasn't, i was merely trying to get people to think about this mantra that speed kills. It does, but only when it is dangerous and inappropriate to do so.

I appreciate what you're saying, though I don't necessarily agree with it all, but you've been onto a loser since you implied that a young child is as equally culpable, if not more so, than the car driver in the event of an accident where the driver is speeding.

Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:07 am  

The pro speed drivers.

basic physics. Mass and speed > the greater the speed , the harder the impact of any collision.

The chances are, hitting someone at 20MPH there is less chance of killing someone than at 30mph and so on.

Moreover, as some folk are keen to blame pedestrians/kids - yes, adults and kids step out into the road without looking, but if you are not speeding you have more time to react and avoid a collision.

Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:29 am  

A pro speed argument
if going to Leeds and it's 50 miles away and i travel at 50mph it will take 1 hour. If i travel at 100 mph it will take 30 minutes.
So that's 30 minutes i'm not on the road lessening the chances of hitting someone/thing

Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:41 am  

In my experience, if you obey the speed limit in Warrington the chances are you will have some idiot within 5 yards of your rear bumper in a matter of seconds. That usually results in me getting completely aggro and definitely affects the quality of my driving.

I can definitely see how tailgating can escalate and result in “road rage” as I’ve been close to doing something stupid on occasions myself.

Re: Watch out, watch out, there's a copper about : Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:12 pm  

Langer7 wrote:

In my experience, if you obey the speed limit in Warrington the chances are you will have some idiot within 5 yards of your rear bumper in a matter of seconds. That usually results in me getting completely aggro and definitely affects the quality of my driving.

I can definitely see how tailgating can escalate and result in “road rage” as I’ve been close to doing something stupid on occasions myself.

So you shouldn't be on the road either then?