Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:22 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

Brilliant. We pay a fee for an exciting young talent, bring him across from Yorkshire,hardly play him and then tell him to leave. What decent young player in their right mind would sign with us?

Willingness to come to the HJS has been a problem over some years, especially at prop, given some of the names we've been linked to and then who we've actually signed.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:38 pm  

No monkey on our backs when it comes to signings.

Grand Final Champions every time for picking up eleventh hour “ Plantpots and Crate eggs”.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:45 pm  

Latu & Sita have been spotted on the reduced shelf at Asda. Further reductions about 4 o'clock.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:50 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

If we could find a new home for Sita & Latu we would be able to bring in a replacement - until then, I don't think we'll see much more movement.

Latu has to be the worst signing since Roy Asotasi (although at least Roy did play more than 3 games for us). I don't know who was responsible for bringing him in, I doubt that it was at the request of Steve Price, but lessons have to be learned. Price inherited Akouala (he signed a month before Price did) and he doesn't seem to fit into Price's plans.

The problem in shifting them is that, even if we paid their wages, they would count towards the other teams salary cap so you are looking for a club who is desperate for props and has space on their cap but doesn't have money in the bank.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:53 pm  

How desperate would these other clubs have to be ? To only solution those two is pay as you play contracts in which case they could be world beaters.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:01 pm  

SHW- Latu hasn't been played by Price - or rather only twice I think, and in one of those I thought he did ok.
The issue for me is Latu came to us unfit (allegedly) and brought in by KF - possibly with a luke warm reception from SP.
It seems to me that once SP gets it in his mind he doesn't want to play someone then that's it.
Latu didn't get a chance until we were down to the bones. (Maybe he didn't deserve it).
It's similar for Sita with respect to SP getting something in his mind.
I find it slightly amusing on here the flack that Sita has got since he was dropped by Price earlier in the year.

Additionally we've brought in too many young players and simply they and the club have not ade it work.
Johnson is 2nd row and they try to play him at prop.
Morgan Smith came over with great raps but hardly did anything. The club has really got to think about this.
It's' recruitment policy has been less than good over the last few years at all levels - be it spending on marquee players or youngsters.

Next year?
Can't see us doing anything or playing good rugby. We do have the players......
But I've been wrong before.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:26 am  

fez1 wrote:

SHW- Latu hasn't been played by Price - or rather only twice I think, and in one of those I thought he did ok.
The issue for me is Latu came to us unfit (allegedly) and brought in by KF - possibly with a luke warm reception from SP.
It seems to me that once SP gets it in his mind he doesn't want to play someone then that's it.
Latu didn't get a chance until we were down to the bones. (Maybe he didn't deserve it).
It's similar for Sita with respect to SP getting something in his mind.
I find it slightly amusing on here the flack that Sita has got since he was dropped by Price earlier in the year.

Additionally we've brought in too many young players and simply they and the club have not ade it work.
Johnson is 2nd row and they try to play him at prop.
Morgan Smith came over with great raps but hardly did anything. The club has really got to think about this.
It's' recruitment policy has been less than good over the last few years at all levels - be it spending on marquee players or youngsters.

Next year?
Can't see us doing anything or playing good rugby. We do have the players......
But I've been wrong before.

Gus Gould recommended Latu came to SL as to rehabilitate from injury to regain fitness and consistency as he was not a standard for the NRL in his opinion, Gould contacted Wire to recommend him to us....

(Go feck yourself Gould)

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:45 am  

Alffi_7 wrote:

Maybe Johnson did not develop as the club expected him to? The club have shown in the past that if a player is good enough, they will play them, Currie, King, Philbin all got plenty of opportunities at a young age Johnson just never kicked on to suggest he was worth a place in the 17. A waste of £45k, but I'd rather the club was taking those chances than not. Maybe Robson staying meant there was no squad place for Johnson? I'd say Robsom looked the better of the two from the short gametime both have had. Not hat I expect either to be challenging for a spot in the 17 of a top squad.

Brand going out on loan would seem to make sense, he will have Inglis, King, Gelling and Mamo ahead of him. Doesn't mean his time at the club is over and to me doesn't mean it was a bad recruitment decision, this just gives him gametime in 2021 when reserves will not be an option. I wonder if he will find his way back to Widnes for a year?

Still looking to offload Latu according to League Express, I just don't see why anyone would take him, so unless we want to pay him off, or pay a share of his salary for 2021 to enable a move, I don't expect much movement.

Don`t think any Super League club will take Latu off us.

He will probably go to a Championship club, with Wire having to pay for the majority of his salary.

SJM should be asking serious questions of why money is being squandered on substandard players such as Latu..

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:03 am  

The best chance of Latu going to another superleague club will be to club 12 I think. If they're desperate.

Sita I think could be good under a different coach. What he brings has never really been questioned it's just the amount of time he is able to sustain it! Although he is a marked man with the judiciary panel and does some silly things to be brought to their attention. I do think a different coach could get more out of sita though say 30 to 40 minutes in a match. He'd be worth keeping then IMO, props that actually make impact are hanrdnto find.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:15 am  

If Sita could do what he does for 30/40 mins a game, rather than 10 then he'd play a lot more. He's be able to offer something properly useful to the team. He always has an impact when he comes on, we just need it for longer. Only issue with that is (as somebody has said previously in this thread) his card is definitely marked with the RFL judiciary panel.