Re: Rangi chase : Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:12 pm  

mark_m wrote:

You would think so but not. 'Prize money' and MoM payments are excluded. Check it under the RFL rules.

It is rather open to manipulation.

I read a very interesting post on the RL Fans Salford site yesterday.

It quoted the clauses in the Super League rules, that allow for Man of the Match & Prize Money that are excluded from Salary Cap.

The article then advised that Koucash had promised certain Salford players payments via this route......Man of the Match winners are nominated usually by the match sponsor of the day, & hence can be very easily manipulated.

I was going to copy & paste the Salford site posting on this thread.

HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN DELETED!!!!!

Very Interesting.

Re: Rangi chase : Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:18 pm  

Boss Hog wrote:

I read a very interesting post on the RL Fans Salford site yesterday.

It quoted the clauses in the Super League rules, that allow for Man of the Match & Prize Money that are excluded from Salary Cap.

The article then advised that Koucash had promised certain Salford players payments via this route......Man of the Match winners are nominated usually by the match sponsor of the day, & hence can be very easily manipulated.

I was going to copy & paste the Salford site posting on this thread.

HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN DELETED!!!!!

Very Interesting.

It was my post and it is still there. Page 4 (I think) of the 'Propeganda' thread.

Re: Rangi chase : Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:32 pm  

I heard the very same thing from elsewhere. The adherence to the salary cap has been a mystery down at Salford for sure when they are openly stating they are running at a £50k loss per game.

Re: Rangi chase : Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:42 pm  

I really don't know how Salford do it. I thought you could only spend up to half of your clubs revenue. So to spend the full cap you would need revenue of about 3.6million. I remember Cullen said we needed an average attendance of about 10k to get us the full cap.

Salford have what 3,500 average fans at 20 quid a ticket, would make less than a million. Yes I know there is corporate which pay more but still even with tv money and sponsorship, they would need around 2.6m in revenue from these. The 3500 fans is probably boosted by a shed load of free tickets they give away. Something doesn't add up to me!

Re: Rangi chase : Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:59 pm  

ComeOnYouWolves wrote: I really don't know how Salford do it. I thought you could only spend up to half of your clubs revenue. So to spend the full cap you would need revenue of about 3.6million. I remember Cullen said we needed an average attendance of about 10k to get us the full cap. Salford have what 3,500 average fans at 20 quid a ticket, would make less than a million. Yes I know there is corporate which pay more but still even with tv money and sponsorship, they would need around 2.6m in revenue from these. The 3500 fans is probably boosted by a shed load of free tickets they give away. Something doesn't add up to me! Here is the full article, from the Salford site ( Thanks Nottingham Tiger, I thought I read it on the Rangi Chase thread. When I couldn`t find it there, I wrongly assumed it had been deleted) :- FearTheVee wrote: I don't believe this for a moment - you can randomly nominate a player every week to get a payment that doesn't count on the cap? No way that can be true, otherwise clubs would just have a carousel of MOM awards across the squad to pay salaries in excess of the cap. Or pay someone nothing but award him MOM every week and he would be free on the cap! Nottingham Tiger wrote: Unfortunately, it is true. Directly from the RFL salary cap regulations: a http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1 This means that for example for 12 home games, one player per game could be paid £50, 000, as Man of the Match. The club would have given £600, 000 to the clubs elite players, that wasn`t subject to salary cap. Hence the Man of the Match awards could be manipulated to ensure that the star players received these additional payments to the salary that they had negotiated.

ComeOnYouWolves wrote: I really don't know how Salford do it. I thought you could only spend up to half of your clubs revenue. So to spend the full cap you would need revenue of about 3.6million. I remember Cullen said we needed an average attendance of about 10k to get us the full cap. Salford have what 3,500 average fans at 20 quid a ticket, would make less than a million. Yes I know there is corporate which pay more but still even with tv money and sponsorship, they would need around 2.6m in revenue from these. The 3500 fans is probably boosted by a shed load of free tickets they give away. Something doesn't add up to me! Here is the full article, from the Salford site ( Thanks Nottingham Tiger, I thought I read it on the Rangi Chase thread. When I couldn`t find it there, I wrongly assumed it had been deleted) :- FearTheVee wrote: I don't believe this for a moment - you can randomly nominate a player every week to get a payment that doesn't count on the cap? No way that can be true, otherwise clubs would just have a carousel of MOM awards across the squad to pay salaries in excess of the cap. Or pay someone nothing but award him MOM every week and he would be free on the cap! Nottingham Tiger wrote: Unfortunately, it is true. Directly from the RFL salary cap regulations: a http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1 This means that for example for 12 home games, one player per game could be paid £50, 000, as Man of the Match. The club would have given £600, 000 to the clubs elite players, that wasn`t subject to salary cap. Hence the Man of the Match awards could be manipulated to ensure that the star players received these additional payments to the salary that they had negotiated.

Re: Rangi chase : Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:02 pm  

Well spotted a loophole.
That along with the shhhh fat purse payments.

Re: Rangi chase : Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:35 am  

Rangi chase rumours not going away ??

Re: Rangi chase : Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:55 am  

Call Salford all you like but Wire are no better. I've heard some true stories from players in the game about Wire and you lot manipulate the salary cap.

If you manage to sign Chase, Sandow, Gidley and Lineham for next year while increasing the likes of Ben Curries contract then something is not right imo. Chase is currently one of the highest paid players in SL. Sandow is one of the highest paid half backs in the NRL, Gidley is a seasoned pro and every team in SL was fighting for Linehams contract.

Lucky for us other SL fans spending money does not guarantee you a SL title.

[BOBBIE_IS_SUPERMAN]

Re: Rangi chase : Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:00 am  

LFC Saint wrote:

Call Salford all you like but Wire are no better. I've heard some true stories from players in the game about Wire and you lot manipulate the salary cap.

If you manage to sign Chase, Sandow, Gidley and Lineham for next year while increasing the likes of Ben Curries contract then something is not right imo. Chase is currently one of the highest paid players in SL. Sandow is one of the highest paid half backs in the NRL, Gidley is a seasoned pro and every team in SL was fighting for Linehams contract.

Lucky for us other SL fans spending money does not guarantee you a SL title.

Back to Being the Chelsea of RL .. I've Missed this

Re: Rangi chase : Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:00 am  

LFC Saint wrote:

Call Salford all you like but Wire are no better. I've heard some true stories from players in the game about Wire and you lot manipulate the salary cap.

If you manage to sign Chase, Sandow, Gidley and Lineham for next year while increasing the likes of Ben Curries contract then something is not right imo. Chase is currently one of the highest paid players in SL. Sandow is one of the highest paid half backs in the NRL, Gidley is a seasoned pro and every team in SL was fighting for Linehams contract.

Lucky for us other SL fans spending money does not guarantee you a SL title.

Why, has your crystal ball shown you the 2016 GF winners already?

And do you really think Ben Currie has been bumped up to Adrian Morley, who we signed as a 29 year old in his prime world leading prop,'s contract after one full season under his belt in the first team?