Re: DC is a wire : Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:19 pm  

He's coming. Forget this nonsense that he doesn't want to. He's got to let the cas faithful know he doesn't really want to leave but he knows it makes sense for his career. He will leave with a heavy heart but we've got an absolute gem and a bargain.

Re: DC is a wire : Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:08 pm  

Let's hope so.

Re: DC is a wire : Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:23 pm  

Having been on the receiving end of it as a Wire, as I'm sure most of us have, Cas' main responsibility is to ensure the survival of the club and the odd Wembley appearance isn't going to change that I'm afraid, so the tangible assets are all fair game.

Of course, at the risk of sounding condescending, as one door closes another opens. When Andy Greg left us most people of a P&B persuasion thought the oceans would boil and the planet would fall off it's axis, then along came a lovely fella called Keith Holden who could also play a bit and we all moved on.

The fact Keith sufferred a career-ending injury all too soon is another reason on top of the 180,000 others we know of as to why Cas have done the right thing to cash in their chips.

Re: DC is a wire : Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:54 pm  

I remember Keith Holden, plucked from the Pie reserves as recall. I was at there at Swinton, the old Station Road, when he ran around the blind side of the scrum and just collapsed as though he had fallen in a pot hole. Never really truly recovered but what a player we had, albeit it too briefly.

Didn't his lad play for one of our our junior sides for a spell?

Re: DC is a wire : Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:23 am  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

Having been on the receiving end of it as a Wire, as I'm sure most of us have, Cas' main responsibility is to ensure the survival of the club and the odd Wembley appearance isn't going to change that I'm afraid, so the tangible assets are all fair game.

Of course, at the risk of sounding condescending, as one door closes another opens. When Andy Greg left us most people of a P&B persuasion thought the oceans would boil and the planet would fall off it's axis, then along came a lovely fella called Keith Holden who could also play a bit and we all moved on.

The fact Keith sufferred a career-ending injury all too soon is another reason on top of the 180,000 others we know of as to why Cas have done the right thing to cash in their chips.

I remember watching Sculthrope and Harris go and thinking the world just ended (I was just a kid then) I hated them both forever after that but when you realise that the fees received for these players kept our great club going then its easier to take.

Cas were close to going out of business and now all looks rosy, I like to think that we helped them out but fear they may feel the same way I did as a kid. They have a great coach and a really good team I really hope they kick on from here and improve year on year and hopefully finally get their new stadium!

Re: DC is a wire : Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:43 am  

Irishwire wrote:

I remember watching Sculthrope and Harris go and thinking the world just ended (I was just a kid then) I hated them both forever after that but when you realise that the fees received for these players kept our great club going then its easier to take.

Cas were close to going out of business and now all looks rosy, I like to think that we helped them out but fear they may feel the same way I did as a kid. They have a great coach and a really good team I really hope they kick on from here and improve year on year and hopefully finally get their new stadium!

The new stadium is essential for them. without it they'll just keep pouring money into the bottomless pit that is Wheldon Road and in 2 years they'll be back where they started. They are also going to lose quite a few players at the end of the season and I don't think that the replacements they've brought in so far are anything like as good.

Re: DC is a wire : Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:59 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

I know the point you're making Mark, but I can't see how you can sign someone without their consent, they have to agree terms, or can just say I'm staying put.


I'm somewhat quizzical about the circumstances of the sale as well, we got told they had to sell someone to keep the woke from the door, it was Clarke or chase, and they've ended up flogging both of them. Now I know they've invested the chase money well and done well this season, but flogging both makes no sense, especially when medium to long term they're losing more players next season.

Are the board happy they've just got a club to run ? Is Wembley a big bonus for this year ? Probably.

Its just like Southampton in football, clubs need money to survive and if it means selling one or two players then so be it. They have shown that they can compete and do you think a team like Cas could bring in the likes of players they have for next season without the money generated from the sales

Re: DC is a wire : Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:47 pm  

We're budgeted to spend less next year than this, thanks to freeing up big contracts to Richard Owen and Lee Gilmour.

I think all this is clutching at straws. The deal quoted was put to DC 2 months ago, Wire were happy to accept the money & comp back. Cas were happy to pay it, and double his wage, and give him a get out clause to NRL for 2017. He wants exposure for the NRL and reckons his best chance is at Wire. So snubbed the deal.

Have things changed since then? I'm not sure.

Re: DC is a wire : Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:59 pm  

Australians don't watch Cas?

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: DC is a wire : Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:08 pm  

Ian Henderson put it on the map