Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:26 pm  

Thanks angry pirate love you too
Even though may disagree on the cause is it not better to get passionate about something rather than be apathetic about everything ?

Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:34 pm  

staffs wire wrote:

Even though may disagree on the cause is it not better to get passionate about something rather than be apathetic about everything ?

Sure, but why get upset about something that has always been as it is now.....A survey of the general public's musical tastes??

You are sadly mistaken if you believe that Simon Cowell and X Factor have single handedly manipulated the charts....All that has happened in recent years is that music has become more accessable to more people, thus, they have become even more so than ever, a reflection of the general public's tastes.

Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:43 pm  

The Angry Pirate wrote:

Sure, but why get upset about something that has always been as it is now.....A survey of the general public's musical tastes??

You are sadly mistaken if you believe that Simon Cowell and X Factor have single handedly manipulated the charts....All that has happened in recent years is that music has become more accessable to more people, thus, they have become even more so than ever, a reflection of the general public's tastes.

........but there is a difference, as the sheer audience numbers for the X Factor gives any record featured on it an overarching advantage over all other options. There has always been 'showbiz' music in the charts, as you say, and I admire Simon Cowell's ability to make money out of re-tread of a TV format that has been doing the rounds since Opportunity Knocks. However, no previous TV show had this sort of power, so it does undoubtedly distort the Christmas No 1 race.

Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:52 pm  

Asgardian13 wrote:

........but there is a difference, as the sheer audience numbers for the X Factor gives any record featured on it an overarching advantage over all other options. There has always been 'showbiz' music in the charts, as you say, and I admire Simon Cowell's ability to make money out of re-tread of a TV format that has been doing the rounds since Opportunity Knocks. However, no previous TV show had this sort of power, so it does undoubtedly distort the Christmas No 1 race.

Who exactly is bothered by who wins the race for the Christmas No 1? If a "classic Christmas song" was released this year and only made No 2 it would still be the song that will get belted out of every shop/pub/bar/office for years to come instead of this xfactor bloke.

Not that the charts are relevant to anything except who sold the most singles in a week anyway.

Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:55 pm  

Asgardian13 wrote:

However, no previous TV show had this sort of power, so it does undoubtedly distort the Christmas No 1 race.

No, it doesn't distort anything...it reflects the power of TV.

Over the years, Nick Berry, Benny Hill, and a whole lot more chart toppers have used the power of TV to have big hits....Cowell is simply another one of those, only in a more polished way.

Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:33 pm  

I am not getting angry about it Angry Pirate I am just taking part in a public protest, which is something everyone should support the principle of,if not the aim.

I am not asking you to support it as that is your choice,but isn't great that it has got so many people talking and interested on both sides for whatever reasons.
Thats whats great about our country.

Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:36 pm  

At the end of the day its abit of harmless fun.

Bring back Robson and Jerome.

Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:48 pm  

Exactly right lets enjoy it's Christmas !

Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:59 pm  

There we go then. Power to the people.

Re: O/T - RATM for Xmas Number 1 : Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:03 pm  

RATM have got number one.