: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:18 pm  

Wire On The Telly wrote:

Have wanted to do first aid course for while. Did my Ref one a while ago, so suppose it's an natural progression to my coaching badges.

After the rubbish you were saying about being allowed to pass forward in the in-goal area I suggest you enrol on a refresher course.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:21 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

After the rubbish you were saying about being allowed to pass forward in the in-goal area I suggest you enrol on a refresher course.

No need to, i stand by my interpretation.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:24 pm  

Wire On The Telly wrote:

No need to, i stand by my interpretation.

I missed this - in what circumstances can you pass the ball forward?

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:26 pm  

Ian [77] wrote:

I missed this - in what circumstances can you pass the ball forward?

You can't.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:27 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

You can't.

Forgive me Paul, but I think I'll wait for WOTT's interpretation of the laws of the game before forming a definitive view.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:28 pm  

Ian [77] wrote:

Forgive me Paul, but I think I'll wait for WOTT's interpretation of the laws of the game before forming a definitive view.

I think authorative would be more apt.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:29 pm  

Here's the thread http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=405804 The one where WOTT rinses Paul.

Here's the thread http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=405804 The one where WOTT rinses Paul.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:33 pm  

JWP wrote: Here's the thread http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=405804 The one where WOTT rinses Paul. Hmm, WOTT doesn't explain his reasoning. If WOTT is correct, and you can pass the ball forward in your own in goal area, then presumably someone can chuck it, NFL style, from the back of the ingoal area to the try line and have his colleague catch it and run off. I always thought that any sort of handing error by the defending team (forward pass, knock on) within the ingoal area resulted in a drop out. Looks like I was wrong <sits back and waits for WOTT to explain>

JWP wrote: Here's the thread http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=405804 The one where WOTT rinses Paul. Hmm, WOTT doesn't explain his reasoning. If WOTT is correct, and you can pass the ball forward in your own in goal area, then presumably someone can chuck it, NFL style, from the back of the ingoal area to the try line and have his colleague catch it and run off. I always thought that any sort of handing error by the defending team (forward pass, knock on) within the ingoal area resulted in a drop out. Looks like I was wrong <sits back and waits for WOTT to explain>

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:36 pm  

Ian [77] wrote:

Hmm, WOTT doesn't explain his reasoning.

If WOTT is correct, and you can pass the ball forward in your own in goal area, then presumably someone can chuck it, NFL style, from the back of the ingoal area to the try line and have his colleague catch it and run off. I always thought that any sort of handing error by the defending team (forward pass, knock on) within the ingoal area resulted in a drop out.
Looks like I was wrong

<sits back and waits for WOTT to explain>

I did too, but then WOTT spoke, and I listened. Maybe in hindisght, my Nan was correct, I am a pawn shop.*

*I'll take anything in.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:42 pm  

WOTT is getting mixed-up with the old can't be off-side within the in-goal area. This is true and is covered in section 14 of the rules by the inclusion of the specific wording "except when he is in his own in-goal". Forward pass is covered in Section 10 where it says: "A player will be penalised if he deliberately kocks-on or passes forward" No exceptions are given. WOTT would seem to be confused by the old "in-goal area" not part of the field of play rubbish. See Section 2: Field of Play of the rules that clearly indicates the "in-goal" areas as part of the field of play. Anybody who doubts the above can consult: http://www.widnesrlreferees.btik.com/at ... book_2004_[1].pdf I know its the 2004 version but niether of these rules have changed in recent times.

WOTT is getting mixed-up with the old can't be off-side within the in-goal area. This is true and is covered in section 14 of the rules by the inclusion of the specific wording "except when he is in his own in-goal". Forward pass is covered in Section 10 where it says: "A player will be penalised if he deliberately kocks-on or passes forward" No exceptions are given. WOTT would seem to be confused by the old "in-goal area" not part of the field of play rubbish. See Section 2: Field of Play of the rules that clearly indicates the "in-goal" areas as part of the field of play. Anybody who doubts the above can consult: http://www.widnesrlreferees.btik.com/at ... book_2004_[1].pdf I know its the 2004 version but niether of these rules have changed in recent times.