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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:50 am  
Lord Tony Smith wrote:
Some of them are that bad. Ben Currie has been garbage for a couple of seasons now, he looks disinterested. Joe Philbin, since tripling his money, has been awful too. Jack Hughes isn’t good enough, Ratchford isn’t good enough anymore. Mulhern, Bullock, J Clark, Holmes are all average.

Bellamy wouldn’t. These players aren’t interested or passionate enough. They’d rather be leaving training early to sell hats and clothes.


Wasn't it supposedly one of Powell's strengths we were told is that he can develop average players into good ones. So what has gone wrong? He seems to have become Midas in reverse.
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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:53 am  
I wouldn't have thought that any of us want, or wish, to bring back Price, his time has come and gone. I wouldn't have thought that any of us disagree that a change in culture or ethos at the club and a change in playing style was needed. Also, we needed leadership on the pitch. I'm not calling for DP's head, just wonder if he's gone about change in the wrong way. Part of DP's remit should have been to continue stability, which at the start of the season, I thought would be struggle due to our front row being light. Now it appears that were worse off (comparing where we are now, and the start of 2022) and at the business end without Cooper. For me, Amor and Mikaele don't make up for his loss. We've 8 games left and a four point advantage, and are thankful that Catalans sent a weakened team that gifted us three of our six tries. We desperately (still) need a leader or two on the field in these coming weeks.
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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:57 am  
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He's been here just over half a season tasked with a total restructure - what were you expecting?

Price had 4 seasons and presided over dismal rugby with the fans leaving in droves and 3 failures at the first stage. Virtually every player became less effective under his coaching too; help me out, who improved apart from (ironically) Toby King?

Who would you get in then?

Or if you didn't want him in in the first place, who would have been your pick?


He's actually had 10 months there or there abouts now, not 6. And while players became less effective under Price, at least they could defend their frigging line when the attack was shot and stay in games on that alone. Powell has them defending with all the resistence of a spiders web. I don't get paid to make decisions on who will coach us so I don't well care. But i'm within my right to judge the shower that Powell has served up to us in 2022.
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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:03 am  
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I wouldn't have thought that any of us want, or wish, to bring back Price, his time has come and gone. I wouldn't have thought that any of us disagree that a change in culture or ethos at the club and a change in playing style was needed. Also, we needed leadership on the pitch. I'm not calling for DP's head, just wonder if he's gone about change in the wrong way. Part of DP's remit should have been to continue stability, which at the start of the season, I thought would be struggle due to our front row being light. Now it appears that were worse off (comparing where we are now, and the start of 2022) and at the business end without Cooper. For me, Amor and Mikaele don't make up for his loss. We've 8 games left and a four point advantage, and are thankful that Catalans sent a weakened team that gifted us three of our six tries. We desperately (still) need a leader or two on the field in these coming weeks.

Agree with your points. The remaining question though is can DP swing the performances round not just for the end of seasons games but for the future too. Based on this years terrible season, the club really needs to review this critically.
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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:15 am  
Weve discussed this at length and made our opinions known. It's going backwards and fowards with the same points being made over and over again.I reckon we draw a temporary line under this until the next match.

But in the meantime, here's your big question:

If you want him gone now, name the successor you'd like.

If not, say stay (we all know its not perfect so far)



So basically it's a stay. Or it's a go and a potential successor has to be named (or we'll have literally no-one coaching us).
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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:23 am  
Gazwire wrote:
Weve discussed this at length and made our opinions known. It's going backwards and fowards with the same points being made over and over again.I reckon we draw a temporary line under this until the next match.

But in the meantime, here's your big question:

If you want him gone now, name the successor you'd like.

If not, say stay (we all know its not perfect so far)


How about no. Basically your excuses to keep him amount to "well there's nobody else" Yeah, you're right, realistically there is nobody half way through the season. But that does not and will not mean that people have to sit silently putting up with this absolute sheite being offered up every week. Play crap every week, get called crap every week. We literally cannot be playing much worse and might aswell not have him around. Let's just roll with nobody because Powell has had that much a negative effect I don't well see the point of putting up with him trotting out tripe every week. This lad thinks we're still able to do something this year and building something special. The only special thing here atm is his delusion.
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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:24 am  
KineticRR wrote:
We didn't need a restructure, we needed a coach who could keep getting us into playoffs, and finals, and to challenge the big teams regularly. We can't even challenge Wakefield.

We already had the players capable of doing that.

If we aren't in playoffs next season, he has got to go.



We have won 1 (ONE) major honour in the last 10 seasons. Thats a poor return on the investment in the playing squad.

Of course we needed change.
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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:25 am  
Gazwire wrote:
Weve discussed this at length and made our opinions known. It's going backwards and fowards with the same points being made over and over again.I reckon we draw a temporary line under this until the next match.

But in the meantime, here's your big question:

If you want him gone now, name the successor you'd like.

If not, say stay (we all know its not perfect so far)


I’m not the one to answer that question, the board are. But, the board must first answer the question of whether on not this year is a reasonable. If not, what are they going to do about it. If it is reasonable, owing to the state of the club that the coach inherited, how have they and the executive have presided over such a failure and who is accountable for that.

But, for what it’s worth as a paying punter, with McGuire, Holbrook, McDermott, Smith et al all readily available, shortage of suitable replacements won’t wash as an excuse. There are even young talents such as Ciraldo, King or even Paul Wellens who are in excellent systems and could be a sage choice.
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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:26 am  
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We have won 1 (ONE) major honour in the last 10 seasons. Thats a poor return on the investment in the playing squad.

Of course we needed change.


How many has Powell won in the last 10 (TEN) years?
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Re: Powell OUT : Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:36 am  
WireWireWire wrote:
How many has Powell won in the last 10 (TEN) years?


That didn’t stop many fans wanting Powell when they were whining about Price .
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