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Re: Rumours : Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:33 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

again, as has been repeated as nauseum. His scooting does not outway the poor defence, the poor turning after kicks, the lack of ability catching high balls, the lack of ability picking up bouncing balls, poor defence on the line,

I'd wager Paul white was a more well rounded "rugby league player" then Matty Russell is.

Well Jimmy White is also an option, he is a really good ball player.

Re: Rumours : Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:36 am  

ninearches wrote:

I think Russell fits in perfectly seeing as scooting seems to be Smith's plan A for getting upfield. It is effective up to a point and avoids chances of losing possession by passing the ball between attacking players & resulting knock ons.

There are times when scooting is effective, when it is at its least effective is when it is almost every time, which seems to be our remit. We lack imagination, yet have some very creative players meaning we are being coached incorrectly and in my opinion our attacks are being run and coordinated through the wrong players (include Brown in that). Clark is brilliant but he needs to do more passing from. Dummy half for me, ratchford and Patton need to be more involved and Russel needs to be a bench player at the very most, he has some useful attributes but I don't see improvement in his considerable weaknesses, he's the sort of player that would get away with his deficiencies if he turned momentum in games and was a try machine but he offers neither of those things.

I'd like to see Gidley at 1, ratchford and Patton in the halves and the game being played through the halves as much as possible with plenty of support runners,we have the players to operate like this it's foolish to keep churning out the rubbish that isn't getting us anywhere.

Re: Rumours : Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:14 pm  

Gidley can't play 1. Too slow now and mostly out of position when at full back. Patton not ready for super league. Poor defender, poor decision maker, can't organise people around him doesn't take line on with any speed. Generally speaking if offence is poor it's generally cause half backs poor. We also have a full back and hooker who are creative individually but don't really have a lot of vision. Can't see us making the 8 with our current on field decision makers. Just hope enough to scrap through middle 8's

Re: Rumours : Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:50 pm  

Bigted wrote:

Gidley can't play 1. Too slow now and mostly out of position when at full back. Patton not ready for super league. Poor defender, poor decision maker, can't organise people around him doesn't take line on with any speed. Generally speaking if offence is poor it's generally cause half backs poor. We also have a full back and hooker who are creative individually but don't really have a lot of vision. Can't see us making the 8 with our current on field decision makers. Just hope enough to scrap through middle 8's

Gidley has looked his best at fullback and or best defensive efforts have come from when he's played there

Patton is more than ready for superleague and he's the only player who takes the ball to the line. He often gets caught ball in hand because our forwards stand around instead of hitting a line for him.

Yo also implied that clark and Ratch aren't decision makers.

You can call the team all you want but leave out the players who look interested. luckily its only the spine of the team which seems to care, that's a good sign. its also easier to replace forwards, centres and wingers than it is to replace fullbacks, halves and hookers.

ratch, patton, Smith, Clark and Westerman is a strong spine to model a team around. We just need a good half to partner Patton. either that or put ratch at 6 and find a fullback

Re: Rumours : Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:09 pm  

moving on... wrote:

Gidley has looked his best at fullback and or best defensive efforts have come from when he's played there

Patton is more than ready for superleague and he's the only player who takes the ball to the line. He often gets caught ball in hand because our forwards stand around instead of hitting a line for him.

Yo also implied that clark and Ratch aren't decision makers.

You can call the team all you want but leave out the players who look interested. luckily its only the spine of the team which seems to care, that's a good sign. its also easier to replace forwards, centres and wingers than it is to replace fullbacks, halves and hookers.

ratch, patton, Smith, Clark and Westerman is a strong spine to model a team around. We just need a good half to partner Patton. either that or put ratch at 6 and find a fullback

Can't argue with that.

Re: Rumours : Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:53 pm  

moving on... wrote:

Gidley has looked his best at fullback and or best defensive efforts have come from when he's played there

Patton is more than ready for superleague and he's the only player who takes the ball to the line. He often gets caught ball in hand because our forwards stand around instead of hitting a line for him.

Yo also implied that clark and Ratch aren't decision makers.

You can call the team all you want but leave out the players who look interested. luckily its only the spine of the team which seems to care, that's a good sign. its also easier to replace forwards, centres and wingers than it is to replace fullbacks, halves and hookers.

ratch, patton, Smith, Clark and Westerman is a strong spine to model a team around. We just need a good half to partner Patton. either that or put ratch at 6 and find a fullback

Could agree more, well said

Re: Rumours : Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:23 pm  

In a season when weve scored the least amount of points in the whole league you'd have thought he would have tried some different options. Last year when Sandow was injured we looked decent when Ratch moved to 6. Obviously Smith has a very short memory!

Imagine being a stellar prospect like Morgan Smith... and not being able to get a game behind this shower of 5hite....the mind boggles!

Re: Rumours : Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:34 pm  

moving on... wrote:

Gidley has looked his best at fullback and or best defensive efforts have come from when he's played there

Patton is more than ready for superleague and he's the only player who takes the ball to the line. He often gets caught ball in hand because our forwards stand around instead of hitting a line for him.

Yo also implied that clark and Ratch aren't decision makers.

You can call the team all you want but leave out the players who look interested. luckily its only the spine of the team which seems to care, that's a good sign. its also easier to replace forwards, centres and wingers than it is to replace fullbacks, halves and hookers.

ratch, patton, Smith, Clark and Westerman is a strong spine to model a team around. We just need a good half to partner Patton. either that or put ratch at 6 and find a fullback

If you can't say your 'F's and your 'T's...

Re: Rumours : Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:55 pm  

So we have offered Savelio a 1 year deal, Leigh have offered him a 3 year deal, 2 NRL sides are in for him aswell West Tigers and 1 other i cant remember right now. Seems the upshot is we dont really want to keep him or they think 1 year deal is enough.

Re: Rumours : Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:37 pm  

When Harvey Livett was available he kept Savelio out of the side. I would think that Tony Smith has other ideas & they don't include Savelio.