Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:57 pm  

easyWire wrote:

Williams looking more effective behind the England pack, and surrounded by eager runners.

Marginally. His kicking game is certainly better but I'm still not watching a marquee halfback.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:02 pm  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

Marginally. His kicking game is certainly better but I'm still not watching a marquee halfback.

Agreed, but he’s getting better as this game goes on. Maybe it’s confidence?

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:04 pm  

Also, Tanginoa has got a fair bit of pace. I think he bombed a try though.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:20 pm  

easyWire wrote:

Also, Tanginoa has got a fair bit of pace. I think he bombed a try though.

Indeed. All Stars have looked much more dangerous with Leeming on and D Clarke off. Food for thought there.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:47 pm  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

Indeed. All Stars have looked much more dangerous with Leeming on and D Clarke off. Food for thought there.

I'm not sure what's going on with Clark. Is it simply a poor pre-season due to that operation? There's more to it than a lightweight pack.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:47 am  

easyWire wrote:

I'm not sure what's going on with Clark. Is it simply a poor pre-season due to that operation? There's more to it than a lightweight pack.

He's not been the player he was for getting on for a couple of years.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:08 am  

Clarke was bang average. I thought Mclorum had a decent enough game. McShane was poor. Leeming has to be in the mix somewhere as he gave the all stars a bit of spark when he came on, making a couple of breaks and setting up a try.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:28 am  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

He's not been the player he was for getting on for a couple of years.

His body is broken nowadays sadly, he physically can’t do it anymore.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:40 am  

Leeming was brilliant, he'd be my starting Hooker for England. Clark was ok but he looks like a spent force now, hoping it's just an off season and he'll get back to form again for us.
I genuinely didn't see that much difference in Williams to be honest, don't get the commentators hype about him at all. Cooper did what cooper does every game, and Mata'utia was........average at best. All in all it was a good fast paced game to watch and a decent win for us

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:44 am  

I didn't see the game, as I'd watched the second half of the women's international and that was enough RL for me for one day. It wasn't great. I turned on at the end of the England v All Stars game at the end to find out the score, and found the Sky team getting rather excited by the performance of Williams. My immediate reaction was of annoyance, giving how he'd been in the P&B this season, and thought of "if only" Wane was our coach. What were your thoughts on how Williams did?