Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:32 am  

How do you solve a problem like Tom Lineham?
Out of favor again and dropped out of the 19 for Dec Patton.

Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:03 am  

Contracted until 2019. Not looking good.
We should have paid for him using "Paypal". We could have then had a refund for "Not as described" or " Lost in the post"

Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:42 am  

Why blame the player ? The buck should stop at whoever decided to bring him in at an inflated price ,as with Roy Asotasi. There is plenty of video evidence about to watch players before they are signed. Poor decisions !

Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:24 am  

I still think he will come good. Remember a certain Matt King?

Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:31 am  

As Ninearches says those that scouted have to shoulder some of the blame. However, once the ink is dry on the contract the player has to perform whether he is a fat lump or skin and bone its his job. He's not flown in from Aus he is 3 hours down the road and a move here is not the end of the world. He a young bloke earning (probably) a great wage playing a sport he loves. Perhaps he is just a mardy pants and wants to be back home having his arris wiped.

Back to Ninearches point again someone should have worked out 75% of the issues and probably we wouldn't have signed him.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:58 pm  

Oxford Exile wrote:

I still think he will come good. Remember a certain Matt King?

and thereby is a potential problem. Sure Lineham and King could have what is best described as slow starts to their Wire careers, I'm just not convinced that in Lineham's case the player himself wants to or just as worryingly has the capability to turn things around.

There should be no talk of last chance saloon type stuff he should be heading into his prime and it may yet work out but the odds are heavily stacked against it unfortunately IMO I also agree with those that lay some of the blame with those involved in parting with the cash....it's not looking great

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:20 pm  

Uncle Rico wrote:

and thereby is a potential problem. Sure Lineham and King could have what is best described as slow starts to their Wire careers, I'm just not convinced that in Lineham's case the player himself wants to or just as worryingly has the capability to turn things around.

There should be no talk of last chance saloon type stuff he should be heading into his prime and it may yet work out but the odds are heavily stacked against it unfortunately IMO I also agree with those that lay some of the blame with those involved in parting with the cash....it's not looking great

i dont think you can compare the two really, aside from big money moves the situations are different.

king was a SOO player and Aussie rep player(allbeit fringe ish) who was brought over with a lot of expectation and to be fair as Rob Wire pointed out at the time, wasn't the player we were expecting and we didn't know how to use him and but expected him to be a world beater, and added to that came into a very very underachieving squad that was dishevelled early on through injuries in a bunch of crap weather, 2008 really was garbage looking back.

Whereas lineham is a young lad, lot of potential with some kinks to his game but doesn't seem to be that arsed about the fact he needs to sort said items out, but also its eroding his once good reputation. In a squad that did seem to be on the up and up.


That probably isn't a fair representation of the lineham situ, and i'll hold my hand up to that, but writing about 08 season really just took it out of me

Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:24 pm  

the comparison is that they are both humans (strange, unpredictable creatures) ...and each can take time to adjust for lots of different reasons. I don't think anyone would disagree that Lineham has all the ingredients to be a top player....his head just needs sorting out. If anyone can do that its Tony Smith. I hope so.

Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:31 pm  

Shame about tom as imo could be a very good winger, his temperament can be his undoing as it was crap at fc, nothing bad just couldn't be arsed most of the time, likeable lad just maybe needs to grow up a bit,still young so he may well do, the other thing which I have noticed is he seems to be a bit slower than he was with us, take the semi against you guys when he was pretty quick, all in all time is on his side and you may yet have a gem on your hands

Re: Tom Lineham : Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:21 pm  

He's a bum, he's one of those pupils that teachers always hate, the one in which they see so much potential but the kid just cba and prefers to mess about.

He needs 1 of 3 things, a serious kick up the backside, a professional shrink or showing the door regardless of cost.

I wanted to blame the scouts but the thing is everyone can see the potential, including, Smith/Agar, the board, everyone sees it except Mr T Lineham