Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:17 am  

Or thane wrote:

I'm Surprised Moran still invests in us to be honest, he's done it longer than i thought he would.

Unfortunately he is far too close to one or two people at the club who are letting him down.

Time to show some ruthless business sense,

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:31 am  

We're lucky Simon Moran is first & foremost a Warrington fan otherwise we wouldn't have his money.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:02 pm  

Cooper is one of the best prop forwards in the league. Hill can still do a good 40 (but not 80) minutes. Philbin - I know lots of people talk about the wrecking ball, but have we seen enough of it this season (I haven't). And we've got some good, big framed young lads. Akuala - just doesn't do enough and made the stupidest tackle of the season to get his latest ban.
So yes, one new prop definitely. Maybe in the mould of Bobby Wanbon.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:26 pm  

Ken Parr's Back Pass wrote:

Philbin - I know lots of people talk about the wrecking ball, but have we seen enough of it this season (I haven't).

We totally surrendered the initiative when Price subbed Philbin first half. At that point HIll and Philbin were making big yards and producing tough defence. Then we had some subs by numbers from Price and we got BMM strolling around instead.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:32 pm  

We brought BMM on and they brought Satae on and it was chalk and cheese. Our forwards have on the whole played well for a long time, consistently getting us into the right positions only for our backs to fail miserably. Widdop will be going but id like to see Austin follow him out the door, magic man nowhere near as magic as he thinks he is.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:54 pm  

Cooper, Hill & Philbin have always been our most selected props over the last 3 years. There has been an over reliance on them during that period, we tend to struggle in the pack if one or more of them is missing. Davies or Clarke covering as prop isn’t the answer, they don’t have the presence and go forward we need. It’s a position that needs looking at urgently, Hill isn’t getting any younger & last night was another example that if Cooper doesn’t play we get outmuscled.

Now that BBM has left we really will be lacking a bit of punch in the back row too, Clark & Hughes are very much the same in terms of being good defensively with a quick PTB - that’s about it. Currie, will always have good hands & skill to offer something different however because of injuries he just isn’t the same player he was.

Rob Butler will be handy picky up, when it hopefully gets announced. But we still need another prop, Sita & Latu from what I’ve seen are not the answer.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:34 pm  

Mighty_Wires88 wrote:

Now that BBM has left we really will be lacking a bit of punch in the back row too, Clark & Hughes are very much the same in terms of being good defensively with a quick PTB - that’s about it. Currie, will always have good hands & skill to offer something different however because of injuries he just isn’t the same player he was.

Quick ptb??? Really? When? Clark slows the game down for us more than the opposition tacklers do, why does he try to stay standing on the tackle when we have a referee in Liam Moore that flat refuses to call held? It's just plain dumb, the defensive line has been set for 10 seconds by the time he plays the ball. There were even some tackles last night where the whole defensive line could have set themselves, put on a smoking jacket, pulled a hamlet out of one of their socks and smoked the lot before the tackle was complete, and that's even if they had to share a lighter!

Don't understand currie being brought in to any of this he's been really good this season and during our winning run was fantastic. We played out best when price was forced in to king and currie in the second row, that was the lineup that linked our forwards and our backs instead of looking like we play as 2 separate units. The team was much better balanced.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:17 am  

Or thane wrote:

I'm Surprised Moran still invests in us to be honest, he's done it longer than i thought he would.

Not just Moran, Stuart Middleton has been putting more into the club in recent years. Mike Lomax and Lance James probably put in too.

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:22 am  

Every single match attending fan has seen opposition forwards galloping over our pack for the last couple of years and then when we have the ball barely making it over halfway and then the hit and hope Austin kick praying Toby King hasn't fallen asleep. Then what do we use with any spare cash we have is to bring in Latu and Kibula. I'm sure I saw these 2 on a missing persons poster in Golden Square! FFS surely heads have to roll for this ridiculous situation. We should change our chant to "It'll never be our year"! (PS For those who reply "What about the Challenge Cups" I'd say you can win that by playing 3/4 good games. The GF is the big one and everyone knows it....even Catalans won a CC and Salford nearly did!) C'mon Wire get some big nasty props in or you'll struggle to sell season tickets with what is being dished up!

Re: PROPS PROPS ffs buy PROPS!! : Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:52 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

I’m sick to the feckin back teeth.
How many seasons have we seasons have we said that without 1 or now 2 props, we won’t win a GF?!

Every season you tell us Wire will "win the lot"