Re: Props...for 2019 : Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:19 pm  

Price will sort it

Re: Props...for 2019 : Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:25 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

We need some, as a matter of urgency

The last time we were a PROPER team was back in 2013, when our props were Morley, Carvell, Hill and Wood.
Today's is a far cry from those days
Hill is still up there
Cooper is merely a second rower, promoted
Crosby is Wigan's cast off, and hasn't done anything of note In a Wire top
King George is nowhere near good enough, at this level

4 top notch props gets you sniffing round trophies

Got to disagree on cooper, he's been our best prop this year.

Hill has been up and down, better then last year but that's not saying much.
Crosby started well but has dropped of again.
King has shown that he's not good enough for a team wanting to challenge.

I think one top drawer prop would see us right next year.

Re: Props...for 2019 : Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:32 pm  

I don't disagree with Cooper's form, he just isn't the same size (it seems to me) as a Morley Carvell Hill Wood. He need a bit more bulk. Les Cats had us at arms length (like a top heavyweight boxer would against a cruiserweight) last night.

Like I said elsewhere, just like Scrappy Doo

Re: Props...for 2019 : Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:41 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

I don't disagree with Cooper's form, he just isn't the same size (it seems to me) as a Morley Carvell Hill Wood. He need a bit more bulk. Les Cats had us at arms length (like a top heavyweight boxer would against a cruiserweight) last night.

Like I said elsewhere, just like Scrappy Doo

Can't disagree with that. Size doesn't always come into it though. Sims was similar height and weight to hill but didn't have that strength and determination.
Different position but look at Bateman, it defies logic that he's that strong.


With those 4 you mention, cooper would be 4th choice over wood, which I suppose tells you all you need to know about our back up

Re: Props...for 2019 : Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:12 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

We need some, as a matter of urgency

The last time we were a PROPER team was back in 2013, when our props were Morley, Carvell, Hill and Wood.
Today's is a far cry from those days
Hill is still up there
Cooper is merely a second rower, promoted
Crosby is Wigan's cast off, and hasn't done anything of note In a Wire top
King George is nowhere near good enough, at this level

4 top notch props gets you sniffing round trophies

I'm fairly sure Crosby wasn't a Pie cast off, but chose not to sign a new deal and follow his best mate Hughes, who was in his first season and having a stand out period. He was really enjoying it and persuaded Crosby to sign.

Crosby was the current no8 at Wigan at that time.

Re: Props...for 2019 : Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:39 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

Well rumour says we have one on his way but we need another.

Who is it?

Re: Props...for 2019 : Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:30 pm  

Come on RD who is it ?

Re: Props...for 2019 : Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:14 am  

I've defended Dom Crosby over his exclusion, however I won't defend him over his inclusion.
He made near zero difference vs Catalans and loaning him out will in turn make little difference for us... With a full team he'd be lucky to get on the bench when BMM returns and with a jury's still out Akouala.
It does leave us shallow with out-and-out props but Pomeroy has been extremely successful and I'd put him straight in at back row to free up Westwood to deputise as a prop.l over anything Crosby can offer.

No issues from me to let Dom look for a good contract for 2019 if that Salford rumour is a none starter even if that means letting him go out on loan.

Re: Props...for 2019 : Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:38 am  

Crosby didnt play against Catalan.
He was on the field against Wigan but he did more shirt grabbing than an under 8's team.
He was awfull against wigan and it wouldnt suprise me if it was his last.
Its a shame because he just doesnt look like a rugby league player any more.
We have effectively played the last 3 seasons with a prop down. Having said that Saints have had the same this year with Walmsley out injured and they have coped.

Re: Props...for 2019 : Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:04 pm  

Deus Dat Incrementum wrote:

Crosby didnt play against Catalan.
He was on the field against Wigan but he did more shirt grabbing than an under 8's team.

Doh