: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:45 am  

DISA wrote:

Ignore him, he's a Wigan fan. Only a Wigan fan would post such incorrect yet bitter information.

Only Wigan fans feel the salary cap does not work.

If you are refering to me my good man, im not a wigan fan.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:17 am  

FireWire wrote:

:shock:

Leeds have won the last two Grand Finals.

Last 5 Grand Finals

Leeds have appeared in 4 Grand Finals & won 3.

Saints have appeared in 3 & won 1

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:21 am  

RL Lover wrote:

maybe so but the GF is a one off game in which anything can happen.

Consistently over the last 10 years Saints have been the business and won far more trophies than anyother team.

Bit of a contradiction. Seem to be counting Challenge cup wins in their domincance, but that is decided by the one off game just as much as the play offs.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:24 am  

Wire On The Telly wrote:

Bit of a contradiction. Seem to be counting Challenge cup wins in their domincance, but that is decided by the one off game just as much as the play offs.

I would include CC wins but more importantly than that CC final appearances.

Its almost a given that Saints will be in the CC final every year. Its most definitely one of their major goals of the season.

How many final appearances have wire made?

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:25 am  

Wire On The Telly wrote:

Bit of a contradiction. Seem to be counting Challenge cup wins in their domincance, but that is decided by the one off game just as much as the play offs.

Challenge Cups finals also don't always include the "best team" i.e recent finalists have included Hull, Catalans etc. The Grand Finals mostly inlcude the top 2 teams over the course of the season.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:36 am  

RL Lover wrote:

I would include CC wins but more importantly than that CC final appearances.

Its almost a given that Saints will be in the CC final every year. Its most definitely one of their major goals of the season.

How many final appearances have wire made?

LEEDSLEADS. wrote:

Challenge Cups finals also don't always include the "best team" i.e recent finalists have included Hull, Catalans etc. The Grand Finals mostly inlcude the top 2 teams over the course of the season.

So basically it's who has the better luck in the draw. I don't think you could argue Saints have a dominance in the Cup because they Beat Catalan dragons bottom of the league the year before? Nor Huddersfield who St helens beat in 2006 (Where the Giants finished 9th).

Despite the wins and while nobody remembers who you played but how many cups you have it's hardly convincing. Congratulating however


As for Play off finals, Leedsleads said it him/herself

Last 5 Grand Finals

Leeds have appeared in 4 Grand Finals & won 3.

Saints have appeared in 3 & won

So, are they really dominating. Maybe but it's hardly boring and sickening.

Perhaps you should try supporting in conjunction with Warrington Wolves, a local team in the local leagues, be it the Wizards or Rovers.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:43 am  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

F1, 4 guys realistically going to win it. end of the season new car different 4 people again. keeps it fresh
A1 GP, identical car, down to drivers skill, week in week out different winner YET it bores the cr-p out of you

anybody that watched F1 and decided to Watch A1 GP instead when that was launched are a bit like the fans of Man united that decided to rip up their season tickets and form/watch FC united of Manchester instead....

it was all a very noble and admirable idea.....but your just watching cheap tat at the end of the end day........


is that A1 GP still going by the way.....

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:46 am  

RL Lover wrote:

TBH im finding Saints domination quite boring and sickening.

you wasnt around from about 1985 to 1997 was you......

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:50 am  

RL Lover wrote:

How many final appearances have wire made?

13. A whole 8 less than the Mighty St Helens. Woaaahh
Considering it has been going since 1896

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:00 pm  

the flying biscuit wrote:

you wasnt around from about 1985 to 1997 was you......

part of it, I know that saints used to be a bit like us before their domination started so they obviously needed to take a turn. But surely their turn is now due to come to an end.

variety is the spice of life.