: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:50 pm  

i know you lot are going through some tough times at the moment, i'm a Wakey fan so trust me i know what its like, but i cant believe what some of you are saying about Briers who has been a great servant to your club for years

chin up guys it will get better

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:56 pm  

BROUGH IN

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:57 pm  

get em onside Tours wrote:

Cullen would not touch Briers with a Barge Poll.

I agree. He knows all about lee briers.

York 79

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:00 pm  

'Hitman' Norvern Soul wrote:

BROUGH IN

he's pants mate

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:00 pm  

The same Paul Cullen that made Lee Briers captain of Warrington?
The same Paul Cullen that called the same Lee Briers 'the most naturally gifted halfback in Super League?
The same Paul Cullen that openly voiced his confusion as to why the same Lee Briers never played a Full GB test?
The same Paul Cullen who dubbed the same Lee Briers 'the cleverest player in the Super League'?
The same Paul Cullen that extended Lee Briers' contract a number of times during his tenure at Warrington?

I agree. Don't think he rates him much, to be honest.

[Paul Thexton]

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:03 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

Why would that be a good swap ? We need experience and proven, reliable performers at the min with a touch of class

Yep - having Briers in our team has brought us countless trophies. We also had a first team coach who as a player was extremely successful (something which I believe you have consistently called for in the past, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you one of the ones calling for Sean Edwards to coach us based purely on his playing record before he moved in to coaching Union?) - and look what that got us.

Rob Wire wrote:

and not a rookie that hasn`t achieved anything at this level so far other than having a bit of potential. We don`t have the luxury to chance this sort of rookie at the min given our present situation.

What has Briers achieved in club rugby? not a great deal, really.

I think what this team needs is not so much players with bags of experience, success and an age group of 30-35, but players with ability who have a thirst to prove themselves and take any opportunities they get.

Rob Wire wrote:

Personally i think it could take upto 3 years to get us to anything like a proper team that plays for each other and to understand what putting on a professional RL jersey should mean to a player.

I would agree with that - however, Tony Smith seems to be indicating that he has a sufficiently capable squad of players available to him and that things are fixable, given his record in coaching so far (ignoring the RLWC of course) I think I'm prepared to stick by him and see what improvements are made between now and the end of the season ... I definitely don't think getting rid of players right now is the answer, mainly because any quality replacements for released players are unlikely to be available.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:28 pm  

Paul Thexton wrote:

Yep - having Briers in our team has brought us countless trophies. We also had a first team coach who as a player was extremely successful (something which I believe you have consistently called for in the past, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you one of the ones calling for Sean Edwards to coach us based purely on his playing record before he moved in to coaching Union?) - and look what that got us.


What has Briers achieved in club rugby? not a great deal, really.

Firstly, i`m not sure what point your trying to make here, i`ll refer you back to what you quoted me on when i was describing the type of halback we need at the min "We need experience and proven, reliable performers at the min with a touch of class".

Since when has Lee Briers ever been a reliable performer ? I was obviously stating that we need a player who has experience, is a reliable performer with a touch of class and that isn`t Lee Briers is it from the part i have put in bold.

I was comparing Richie Myler who is a rookie and is the type of player which we don`t need right now in such a key position to the type of player which we do need and is in the quotation marks above.

No, it wasn`t me that was calling for Sean Edwards. It was someone else that raised his name and i expressed my doubts about Edwards as to how long he had been away from rugby league went, it would have been like chancing yet another rookie coach which had no guarnetees and its not what we didn`t need at the time is what i said.

My choices in the past for head coach were Craig Bellamy as the ideal man for the job but more realistically i said Tony Smith was the one we were most likely to get as he had no club ties.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:29 pm  

hope these rumours are true...hope it does`nt stop there
i.e get shut of reardon.. johnson..v. anderson..rauhihi..and any more hanging on by there finger nails

[Paul Thexton]

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:33 pm  

Fair enough Rob, I initially read your post as though you were comparing potential candidates to what we already had (i.e., I thought you were referring to Briers as the man who met your required standards).

Also, I could have sworn that you were one of the many "Edwards in" brigade, senility must be setting in early

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:37 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

I was comparing Richie Myler who is a rookie and is the type of player which we don`t need right now in such a key position, the type of player we do need is in the quotation marks above.

Correct Rob a week ago Sam Tomkins was the answer to wigans prayers.
on Friday at Leeds he was the invisible man(boy).

they can not challenge for trophies with a boy in that position.