Re: New Prop : Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:27 pm  

Douglas Black wrote:

Shaun Wane has picked Philbin (and Cooper) in his 20 for next week's match. So, he obviously has no problems with Philbin.

Thats good for Philbin. Found him underwhelming for most of last year so will watch his performance with interest. Would love to see the barnstorming Philbin of a couple of years ago back.

Re: New Prop : Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:09 pm  

We have cooper Currie n Clark from the forwards who are in the top 10 earners at Warrington possibly philbin but we've certainly commited more of the cap to the back line and had to make do in what forwards we can fit in under the cap. Letting jbclark go to get a prop will result in another latu or sita. When does Cooper's contact expire I think it makes more sense to see if cooper extends or use his n j Clarks money on s prop and promote longstaff up the ranks.

Hopefully Powell will decide a plan to utilise the backs better and not be as reliant on a dominant pack. I don't think we will be bossing packs about but I don't think we have for some time being defensively solid and having a high level of fitness has kept us in a lot of games. If we can do more with the ball then I think we will be ok over the season.

I'm trying to remain positive about the situation but it is frustrating when I see Leeds Wigan hull n others bringing in decent props

I don't think this is the squad to win us a grand final but there's been a good lot of ins and outs for Powell to now get a season with the squad and asses who he does not want and who he wants to replace them with.

Re: New Prop : Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:05 pm  

I'm not sure who the decent props are that Leeds, Wigan and Hull have brought in.

I am not sure at all that Powell will bring us a title, but I'm happy to be proved wrong. If the current squad is it, then we need to trust him to work his magic and get players working as a team as more than the sum of its parts which seems to be his main selling point. If he does that we do have some good talent as seen by the way individual brilliance has brought us many tries.

I'm really disappointed that Harrison has suffered his serious injury as I had a feeling he was going to be a big one for us. There's time for that in 2023.

Anyway, time will tell as ever and I'll have to get over my dislike of Powell.

Re: New Prop : Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:53 pm  

Douglas Black wrote:

I'm not sure who the decent props are that Leeds, Wigan and Hull have brought in.

I am not sure at all that Powell will bring us a title, but I'm happy to be proved wrong. If the current squad is it, then we need to trust him to work his magic and get players working as a team as more than the sum of its parts which seems to be his main selling point. If he does that we do have some good talent as seen by the way individual brilliance has brought us many tries.

I'm really disappointed that Harrison has suffered his serious injury as I had a feeling he was going to be a big one for us. There's time for that in 2023.

Anyway, time will tell as ever and I'll have to get over my dislike of Powell.

Not sure from Wigan but Oledski, Tetevano, Satae, Mau’u and Savelio all walk into our squad.

Re: New Prop : Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:57 pm  

Ah, I thought he meant this year. And I wouldn't trust Savelio. He's another Westerman to my mind. Wasn't Oledski a Leeds junior?

Re: New Prop : Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:27 am  

Douglas Black wrote:

Ah, I thought he meant this year. And I wouldn't trust Savelio. He's another Westerman to my mind. Wasn't Oledski a Leeds junior?

Westerman was decent for us and has been very good for Wakefield since joining. I’d have him at 13 over Hughes any day of the week.

Re: New Prop : Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:16 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Westerman was decent for us and has been very good for Wakefield since joining. I’d have him at 13 over Hughes any day of the week.

Westerman was ok for us without ever justifying the transfer fee I felt (although assuming we got the money off Toronto before they went pop, we should have made most of that back).

As a player I would take him for a 13 role, big, mobile and a good set of hands, however, he's had his issues and they seem to follow him about. In a recent interview he claimed he was much more focused on RL these days so maybe he's sorted himself out and that has resulted in his upturn in form for Wakey. He always looked to have great potential.

On the other players mentioned, Oledski obviously came through Leeds academy, Tetevano is on marquee money I believe ( I think we were linked to him before wage demands put us out of the picture?) Mau'u is a back rower and not had any great impact at Hull. Similarly Savelio is a back rower, and given his reputation, I wouldn't be keen to see him back - again though, great potential.

Satae and Sao however have been great acquisitions for Hull from relative obscurity - it shows there are players out there, if they get Taylor back fully fit they have a solid pack for next year.

Re: New Prop : Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:06 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Westerman was decent for us and has been very good for Wakefield since joining. I’d have him at 13 over Hughes any day of the week.

I'm praying Powell doesn't see the same things in Hughes that price obviously did! A back row of Holmes, currie and longstaff will do me just fine.

Re: New Prop : Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:00 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

I'm praying Powell doesn't see the same things in Hughes that price obviously did! A back row of Holmes, currie and longstaff will do me just fine.

Be interesting if we have a captain that doesn't play.

Re: New Prop : Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:55 pm  

Be interesting to see who the captain actually is next year? Definately needs to go elsewhere other than Hughes.