Re: Powell OUT : Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:13 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

I would take the Dorahy era over this any day of the week. Finished 5th, with the best 2 young talents in Super League (Harris and Sculthorpe) and Henare burning everyone for pace on the wing. Considering we'd got smashed 80-0 by Saints just before he took over, Dorahy turned things round pretty quickly.

Still, the hope (or expectation) was there with both groups. One failed miserably, Dorahy is up for dispute.

Re: Powell OUT : Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:35 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

There’s work to be done. We need so see improvement. Without that, it is the worst period of history since Dorohay, maybe even longer, and we know how long it took to recover from that

I'll "see" your John Dorahy, and"raise you" a Reggie Bowden.
There are similarities.
Replacing a coach, whose team finished in a high position, the season before.
Brought his mates and players with him
Long losing runs
Dire/aimless rugby.

True, Dorahy may not've been our finest hour, but, regardless of the stuff that Sally mentioned, he also brought in crowd favourites such as TKL and Henare., and we did stick in some exciting rugby, at times.

We need 2 points on Sunday. If not, we're further in trouble, as Wakefield /Toulouse will gain points on us. Get a kicking, the' dour Yarkshiremon's on VERY thin ice.

Re: Powell OUT : Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:54 pm  

Hussain M'Barki and Steve Diamond, enough said LG.

Re: Powell OUT : Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:57 am  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

Hussain M'Barki and Steve Diamond, enough said LG.

You're forgetting the legendary Dave Allen, MPN.
We might as well've signed his digit missing, comic namesake, who sat on a stool, drinking whiskey .

The grimmest days I've known as a Wire

Re: Powell OUT : Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:22 am  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

I'll "see" your John Dorahy, and"raise you" a Reggie Bowden.
There are similarities.
Replacing a coach, whose team finished in a high position, the season before.
Brought his mates and players with him
Long losing runs
Dire/aimless rugby.

True, Dorahy may not've been our finest hour, but, regardless of the stuff that Sally mentioned, he also brought in crowd favourites such as TKL and Henare., and we did stick in some exciting rugby, at times.

Dorahy's first (and only) full season was better than expected, given the near melt down we'd had at the end of the Centenary Season following Brian Johnson's resignation. But despite finishing 5th there was always a feeling that all was not well. Iestyn Harris was unhappy and it was inevitable that he was going to move on. We were clearly a long way off the pace of the top teams.

Everything unravelled quickly at the start of Dorahy's second season, Henare lost form and became a liability off the field, and Harris was sold to Leeds.

This was in general an era of watching Wire that I did not enjoy. After the highs of the Jonathan Davies era it felt so frustrating to watch the Wigan empire crumble and then see Bradford and Saints be the teams who were positioned to take advantage of the new era, and we were also rans, when a couple of years before we had looked as good a bet as anyone to take Wigan's crown.

Re: Powell OUT : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:17 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

This was in general an era of watching Wire that I did not enjoy. After the highs of the Jonathan Davies era it felt so frustrating to watch the Wigan empire crumble and then see Bradford and Saints be the teams who were positioned to take advantage of the new era, and we were also rans, when a couple of years before we had looked as good a bet as anyone to take Wigan's crown.

The Davies-era 'spike' of good fortune, was exactly that - an opportunist moment with a bit of luck (Wigan were slightly poorer than usual that year).

I think some posters comparing our situation now to that of the late 90s / early 00s is a bit extreme. For most of that period we were a poor club, and a relatively poor team. We may be having a lull at the moment, but the club is arguably the strongest (along with Leeds) in Northern Hemisphere RL. This, of course, makes it all the more frustrating. Leeds have been through a similar period, and are just coming out of the trough, but can at least point to a decade of success prior to their own doldrums.

I am relatively optimistic compared to how I felt during the bad days of around 20 years ago. I'm more embarrassed and annoyed than despondent. I don't know whether Powell can fix us, but I'm prepared to give him the off-season to start afresh with his own squad. I honestly believe we would have been having a terrible season whoever came in as the new coach. I'm not sure we'd be as low on confidence, as I believe another coach may have tried to maintain the mediocrity rather than shaken things up so violently. I think we'd probably be somewhere around the the Hull or Cas level of performances - acceptable one week, rubbish the next - but not looking like a team who would ever challenge for honours. And we'd probably still be calling for the coach's head and asking for a drastic overhaul of the squad and asking why we kept hold of old and/or expensive 'stars' like Hill, Cooper, King, Charnley et al.

Powell's methods may well prove to be a good thing in the long term, so let's wait and see what happens.

Re: Powell OUT : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:55 am  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

You're forgetting the legendary Dave Allen, MPN.
We might as well've signed his digit missing, comic namesake, who sat on a stool, drinking whiskey .

The grimmest days I've known as a Wire

Enough was said at M'Barki and Diamond. I knew deep down in my memory banks, that within the filing cabinet marked "never to be revisited" lurked a third former Fulham player. I've now had to re-label "never to be revisited and beware of prompts by LG".

Re: Powell OUT : Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:32 am  

Bob Jackson came to Wire at the same time.

He and Greg Mackey, are are among the best Aussies that I have watched at Warrington.

Re: Powell OUT : Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:38 am  

Boss Hog wrote:

Bob Jackson came to Wire at the same time.

He and Greg Mackey, are are among the best Aussies that I have watched at Warrington.

Johnno Boyd Phil Blake for me but both Mackay and jacko were good.. remember Mackay making his debut at Central ok and wire fans saying who's this Greg Mackey..he destroyed Wigan that afternoon

Re: Powell OUT : Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:15 pm  

Boss Hog wrote:

Bob Jackson came to Wire at the same time.

He and Greg Mackey, are are among the best Aussies that I have watched at Warrington.

Bob Jackson did sign at the same time, but he's not in my filing cabinet draw marked "not to be revisited". Also, as Allen, Diamond and M'Barki didn't even empty my bins, on occasion, it's another reason that I make an exception for him.