Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:44 pm  

He denied saying the word, and even though there is only one independent witness I can see why the balance of probability fell against him. He probably would have been better just owning up and saying he screwed up in the heat of the moment.

However:

The Tribunal adopted the reasoning of the RFL as to why the offence should be treated so seriously.

The same RFL whose CEO was caught making a targeted racial joke during a pre-World Cup publicity event. And who was let off the hook by making an apology.

Leading by example right there then?

Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:13 pm  

easyWire wrote:

He denied saying the word, and even though there is only one independent witness I can see why the balance of probability fell against him. He probably would have been better just owning up and saying he screwed up in the heat of the moment.

However:

The same RFL whose CEO was caught making a targeted racial joke during a pre-World Cup publicity event. And who was let off the hook by making an apology.

Leading by example right there then?

Has McGuire apologised? Can’t really get a reduction on the grounds or remorse, without being remorseful.

I do agree though, can’t have idiots at the top. Need a ruthless and uncompromising media machine.

Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:15 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Has McGuire apologised? Can’t really get a reduction on the grounds or remorse, without being remorseful.

I do agree though, can’t have idiots at the top. Need a ruthless and uncompromising media machine.

I’ve not seen an official statement from the club and/or McGuire yet. The disciplinary notes stated something along the lines of being clearly remorseful, but that remorse doesn’t excuse the action (something along those lines).

I guess the club had to wait to find out the verdict before making an apology, because McGuire’s defence was that he didn’t actually say it.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:41 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Has McGuire apologised? Can’t really get a reduction on the grounds or remorse, without being remorseful.

I do agree though, can’t have idiots at the top. Need a ruthless and uncompromising media machine.

He's adamant he didn't say it, don't expect an apology

Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:24 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

He's adamant he didn't say it, don't expect an apology

Sort of puts the club in an awkward position regards any statement. I guess they will condemn use of the word without actually mentioning their position on whether he said it.

Something should be put out though, then we can draw a line under it and move on having hopefully learned a lesson.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:48 pm  

easyWire wrote:

Sort of puts the club in an awkward position regards any statement. I guess they will condemn use of the word without actually mentioning their position on whether he said it.

Something should be put out though, then we can draw a line under it and move on having hopefully learned a lesson.

Have a read of the minutes, it's an eye opener

Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:57 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

just on the mcguire thing, has anyone else read the transcript on the rfl site?

its pretty comprehensive, and very difficult to argue with their reasonings

Yes I did.
Damming, because he evaded answering the key question.
‘What did you say?’

Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:02 pm  

Turns out we don’t need him on the field anyhow.

Looking forward to having him as backup if we get an injury in round 8

Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:05 pm  

I think by round 4/5 there will have been some forwards carrying knocks so Dudson can step in, and maybe a similar thing by round 8 so McGuire can step in.
If they are all fit though.... not sure how that would play out.

Re: Josh McGuire potential ban : Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:23 pm  

fez1 wrote:

I think by round 4/5 there will have been some forwards carrying knocks so Dudson can step in, and maybe a similar thing by round 8 so McGuire can step in.
If they are all fit though.... not sure how that would play out.

Joe Philbin due back quite soon too.