Re: Rumours 2 : Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:22 pm  

Don’t get too upset about Burgess. He hasn’t had a good game for years and he’s good for at least 4 errors and 4 penalties a game.

Re: Rumours 2 : Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:58 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

Me too RD, if only we could make it happen to sign any of those four, we could forget about George Burgess.

Having said that, George Burgess would improve our squad.

He's OK GB when playing but he's a liability like Sita is.
I can't see either getting an extension of contract....Lineham is also getting close. Another repeat of KR and I'd be looking at a replacement. We can't afford to carry these loose cannons.

Re: Rumours 2 : Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:02 pm  

I wouldn't want George Burgess if it meant we couldn't recruit any other players due to the high fee he is asking for.

Re: Rumours 2 : Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:47 pm  

Burgess is a decent prop on his day but is he worth adding to our squad and making the squad smaller due to no cap space.....not at all. We could sign 2 quality props for the same wage that Burgess would command possibly 3. Swapping Austin for Burgess is a rediculous statement, him and Widdop next year will be unreal. There are Quality props out there but for some reason we can't seem to find them, hull have signed a devastating second rower and 2 solid quality props for next year so they are out there. Which leads me to believe our recruiters aren't very good and Fitzpatrick isn't as good as he makes people believe. If him and Price can't get upgrade our forward pack for next year there's something seriously wrong behind the scenes.

Re: Rumours 2 : Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:48 pm  

Don't get me wrong, I'd love G Burgess if we could make it happen as it's a desperate squad need but he's not an elite player. He'll do a brilliant run on minute and the next minute he'll knock on inside his own 20. Kinda like a slightly better BMM.

But as Shazbaz referred to, it's possible that he simply isn't worth the money.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:16 am  

The current CEO is good at talking up the game and he has master minded the upgrade to the promotional side of the club in an effort to increase attendance. The upgrade in promotional work has coincided with a drop in form.

Austin and Widdop will be a great pairing, but only if they can play behind space making forwards we cant afford to keep pounding Hill and Cooper, failure to improve the current situation will see overtaken by other teams. Improve this and the attendances have a good chance of increasing without the winding up tactics we currently use.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:17 am  

Or thane wrote:

Burgess is a decent prop on his day but is he worth adding to our squad and making the squad smaller due to no cap space.....not at all. We could sign 2 quality props for the same wage that Burgess would command possibly 3. Swapping Austin for Burgess is a rediculous statement, him and Widdop next year will be unreal. There are Quality props out there but for some reason we can't seem to find them, hull have signed a devastating second rower and 2 solid quality props for next year so they are out there. Which leads me to believe our recruiters aren't very good and Fitzpatrick isn't as good as he makes people believe. If him and Price can't get upgrade our forward pack for next year there's something seriously wrong behind the scenes.

I don't disagree with your thought process, who do you have anybody in mind? There's two issues in trying to resolve our pack issues, and that's availability and price. There's a good possibility that that once our club is mentioned then the price gets inflated by the players agent. Moran's cash may be great in that we can compete for bigger signings, but a hindrance on the value for money front. Our prop issue needs sorting, but it will be extremely difficult especially with Wigan also in the market for one, if not two.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:32 am  

I'd pay Battye the same wage as GB.
Hell of a player. Halfback in a prop shell.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:09 am  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

There's a good possibility that that once our club is mentioned then the price gets inflated by the players agent. Moran's cash may be great in that we can compete for bigger signings, but a hindrance on the value for money front..

That's a bang on comment, i never actually thought of that and that does make sense. Rubber Duckie has mantioned Eddie Battye and he's a hard working big minutes prop. Doesn't skittle players but do a Quality job for us and take pressure off Hill and cooper. Also if we are prepared to throw big Money at Burgess why not pick up Sebastine Ikahihifo that huddersfield are trying to move on to free up cap space? I bet he still wouldn't command the wage Burgess would but he's a Quality prop. As for other props i'm unsure. But Price & Co will have a much wider net and knowledge of who's available etc so i'm surprised we've heard nothing on the Prop front. I'm just hoping we have 1 or 2 players signed and just keeping it under wraps until the end of the season.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:23 am  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

I don't disagree with your thought process, who do you have anybody in mind? There's two issues in trying to resolve our pack issues, and that's availability and price. There's a good possibility that that once our club is mentioned then the price gets inflated by the players agent. Moran's cash may be great in that we can compete for bigger signings, but a hindrance on the value for money front. Our prop issue needs sorting, but it will be extremely difficult especially with Wigan also in the market for one, if not two.

Do we know that Moran and Middleton directly fund the signings or are they financed through the club through income generated?

Anyhow I do not think it should be too difficult to improve upon Tasi and Sitoleki even if we had Warren Buffet on the board.

We once had the argument of not having money as to why we had a poor squad, we can't use the reverse argument now.

If we don't buy two decent props for 2020 then something is very wrong with the salary cap management and recruitment at the club.