Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:51 pm  

morrisseyisawire wrote:

I'm a self-confessed Currie fan, always have been because he still can and (when given the chance) still does do things not many of the modern grunt and barge backrowers can do.

However, I'll concede he has lapses these days that are unforgivable, and he is something of a luxury.

However, we have bigger issues -

Kasiano, Dudson, Drinkwater, Matautia are deadwood
Ratchford is a good utility and nothing more
Nicholson & Harrison remain work in progress
Williams needs fewer cuddles and a few more rockets
Right wing is an issue
Dufty is another luxury - potent and lazy in equal measures
We look like we need a new conditioner

Nicholson and Harrison(along with crowther and philbin)were immense today. Williams is playing without a half back partner and we have an old man at centre. Effort was superb today, lack of creativity was the problem.

Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:02 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

We have signed Lachlan Fitzgibbon who plays second row (left side) for next season so who knows. This will give a bit more competition ... which is always good.

Considering Burgess fell out with Souths because he wanted one of the world's best players dropped for being out of form, I doubt that he'll be starting Currie ahead of Fitzgibbon. I don't have anything against Currie personally, but he isn't good enough when the chips are down. He's champagne-stuff when we are flat-track bullies, but he's certainly not a Burgess player. I like what I've seen of Fitzgibbon.

Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:03 pm  

Effort should always be there as an absolute minimum. I won't commend them on effort.

Williams is no doubt talented, but for me has massively under performed for us so far. So what do you think he needs in the team to be the superstar he could be?

Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:23 pm  

easyWire wrote:

Considering Burgess fell out with Souths because he wanted one of the world's best players dropped for being out of form, I doubt that he'll be starting Currie ahead of Fitzgibbon. I don't have anything against Currie personally, but he isn't good enough when the chips are down. He's champagne-stuff when we are flat-track bullies, but he's certainly not a Burgess player. I like what I've seen of Fitzgibbon.

Depends whether Burgess sees Nicholson as back row or 13? If he’s going to play him 13 then that leaves Currie at 11.

Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:28 pm  

Spanish Wire wrote:

Effort should always be there as an absolute minimum. I won't commend them on effort.

Someone makes this sort of obnoxious comment every time, but most people can recognise a tough, gritty effort where a team runs their blood to water to compete against a bigger, more fancied side.

Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:33 pm  

just_browny wrote:

Someone makes this sort of obnoxious comment every time, but most people can recognise a tough, gritty effort where a team runs their blood to water to compete against a bigger, more fancied side.

How is that obnoxious?

Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:42 pm  

In the same way I don't question the effort or will to win I also wouldn't give a big pat on the back. Shouldn't they always try? And I thoroughly believe they all do

Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:46 pm  

just_browny wrote:

Someone makes this sort of obnoxious comment every time, but most people can recognise a tough, gritty effort where a team runs their blood to water to compete against a bigger, more fancied side.

I’m not sure the comment was intended that way, more as a “that level of effort was good but should be at that level by default, so I’ll commend things like clever set plays, intelligent rugby, ball control, no silly penalties� etc etc (which obviously we didn’t really show today).

Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:07 pm  

Not good enough but better than last season.

Re: Today’s game v Saints : Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:12 pm  

Spanish Wire wrote:

How is that obnoxious?

It isn't.

Effort should be there every game. The fact that it hasn't been in all games this season is obnoxious.

Wire tried hard against a better, more organised and confident side who, whilst not at their best, were playing at home. The result was never really in doubt for any significant time and we were never ahead in the game. We never looked particularly threatening and looked vulnerable through the middle (as you would expect with our 2 best forwards out). Best team won.