Different people, different views fella. That's all.

If the RFL had any bottle he'd get 5-7 games. I expect about 2-3 though.

What about the shot by Fakir on Morley then?

I was stood near the try line at the end Catalans were attacking first half and didn't have a great view of the incident. I'm yet to see it again but if it is as bad as this thread is making it out to be then he deserves whatever ban comes his way.

I've just been to the Catalans forum to see if Lister the Blister has started a simlilar topic about Fakir's hit on Morley.



Do you reckon he has?







If alls fair, as it should be, both Fakir and Westwood should receive the same ban.

Westwood will get a bigger ban. Difficult to argue lack of intent when you're screaming at a bloke you've just knocked unconscious on the floor.



Fakir's was a bad shot too, but Westwood's behaviour afterwards was a disgrace.

I haven't seen an angle yet to show him screaming at him. I saw him leant over him, I wondered if he knew it was bad, ie, heard his head hit the floor as he was out etc, leant over him, and before he could do anything else, plenty of bodies came in pushing & shoving etc.

I've made this point JWP, but people are ignoring it. I genuinely think he realised he had knocked him unconcious and leaned over to look at his face. You see his hand near his head, and that would ordinarily have been a facial, you can see that he realises something is wrong.



The fact that the commentators said he was having a word, despite the fact the view was off the top of Westwood's head is enough for most people to slag him off.



The tackle was a bad one, and I thought he should have been red carded, but the injury was unfortunate, and as has been mentioned there were some other tackles which need to be looked at.

I've only seen a replay of the Westwood incident. If Fakir's is the same then i'd obviously agree with a similar ban.

The morons on here who have accused Westwood of spitting need to be 100% sure before they start spouting off on here.Even though i watched the match i did not see any spitting whatsoever.What player in their right mind would do such a vile act in front of 8,000 fans not to mention being on camera.Those of you who are still unsure i say watch the incident again then when the mist has cleared from your spectacles you can come back on here to apologise if your man enough.

Not condoning Westwood, but I remember there were one or two hits before Westwoods that looked high (I'm sure the Sky clowns commented on at least one of them) so I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a degree of retaliation from Westwwod, which would be backed up by his shouting after the hit (if that's what happened - it appeared to be).



Even so, I would be surprised if Westwood gets more than four games, and to be honest I think four games would be just about right.



I would be equally surprised if Fakir gets anything at all despite the only real difference between Westwoods hit and his was Morley wasn't knocked out (although it would appear that ultimately Morley has probably come out of it worse than Carlaw).



I know it shouldn't get to me, but I'm still livid with Stevo and his reaction to Westwoods hit when compared to his "he didn't miss did he" comment on Fakirs hit.

Think you are out of order with this post. You say he did it on purpose, but don't take into account that Westwood's head is well to the side, so he is not looking at the player he is tackling. Westwood tackles like this a lot, he has a very aggressive style and often jumps off the ground, hitting them around the chest and putting themon their ar$e. Last night, it was mis-timed and it was a reckless tackle, rather than intentional. 4 matches for me.



I still haven't seen any evidence of him sledging the player. Have you?

'kin hell, it's not football you girls

I think there is a little bit of selective viewing on your part (and a few others), if you can't spot Westwood's 'reaction' to his assault.



Immediately after the incident you can quite clearly see Westwood shouting in the fellow's ear.....If you seriously believe he is just enquiring to the guy's wellbeing, then you are as deluded as I first thought...





Admittedly, Westwood soon realises the damage he has done, but nothing can condone the initial assault and reaction....Any guilt he feels is mixed with the knowledge he has been well and truly 'caught on camera'.

You can't 'quite clearly' see it, that is the point. I have no doubts whatsoever that if he was sledging he would have given him the facial, but he held his hand back, and I read that as he realises something is wrong.



Westwood is rough and oversteps the mark at times, but it isn't clear on th TV pictures. Do they still release the disciplinary statements, as it will be interesting to know whether he did or not, and whether that is a factor in his ban.

Dave T....So do you reckon he is just whispering sweet nothings to the guy???...

The fact is he was set, well balanced and still did it. It was IMO on purpose. He wasnt wrong footed, stepped etc...









Although you are correct in saying that we dont know what was said you are being extreemly charitable in what you think he was doing. IMO he looked aggressive when he leant over at first.

Quote saintc="saintc"why he jumped up and swung at his head. It wasnt mis-timed it was on purpose. After this he did rant at the guy on the ground. I really dont know how you can defend him TBH.'" www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... ss_Wolves/ and the westwood article (fight fire with fire) www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... with_fire/ Would suggest that the aim was to rough the big pack up, however was poorly executed and these things need to be dealt soon as possible.

Quote saintc="saintc"why he jumped up and swung at his head. It wasnt mis-timed it was on purpose. After this he did rant at the guy on the ground. I really dont know how you can defend him TBH.'" www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... ss_Wolves/ and the westwood article (fight fire with fire) www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... with_fire/ Would suggest that the aim was to rough the big pack up, however was poorly executed and these things need to be dealt soon as possible.

No, I'm not saying we don't know what was said. I'm saying we don't know that he said anything, as the shot was of the top of Westwood's head. People are just assuming he was sledging him.



The reason I am questioning this is due to the fact he didn't give the facial when it originally looks like he is going to. That makes me suspect that he realises the player is unconscious.

I haven't seen anything which conclusively proves he said anything.

Also, when the pushing & shoving starts, he doesn't do much. When Westwoods pumped, he'll go after anyone. I think he knows from the point of impact it's a bad one. On top of that, the TV footage of the blokes head hitting the floor, I can only imagine the thud it will have made, I think Westwood knows it's a real bad tackle, bends over the top of him (all you can see on TV is his mop, no sound, nor can you see any face to 'lip read') and is about to draw attention to the injury, ie, players are applauded for their quick thinking in calling help etc. As he bends over, he's pushed & shoved by angry Catalans players, with justification.



You'll not hear me say In my opinion, the tackle is anything less than a four match ban, but I'll stick up for Ben in that I think people are jumping on the bandwaggon a tad with this growling, 'lack of remorse' thing. There's not one angle shows him giving him a verbal, so it's pure speculation. If it was somebody else, we'd get 'He's not that type of player'.

5-6 game ban, big fine and a apology to Carlaw. Total sh*thouse cheap shot, wouldn't bother me if he didn't play for us again, i don't mind people playing the game hard but what Westwood did was just thuggery.

It was a high tackle, calm down.



Those people who think this was intentional, do you also think it was intentional when he went for a big hit on Fozzard and ended up bashing his face and knocking himself out?



These things happen, it is a fast, tough game.



He will get a ban, and he should get back in the team. We want players to try 100%, well in Westwood that is exactly what you get, but from time to time, things go wrong.

Yes well done let us pursue a witch-hunt against a player who has been our most consistent performer for years and has simply made a mistake.



There is much worse going on in games all the time.

Well said Mark....not condoning what Benny did, but good grief talk about going OTT..