Re: New signing needed now? : Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:52 am  

It looks like the intention for Green was just to give him a bit of time to just experience super league level. Probably so that he will go away and work on aspects that he needs to.
At 18 that is an incredibly young age to debut at prop and has a few things to work on in defence but really good to sample that level and hopefully give him the hunger to improve so that the next time he plays he is more prepared.

Re: New signing needed now? : Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:20 am  

If Mikaele had left at the end of 2022, then I would have been totally indifferent, but he's been a different player this year, both as a starting prop and off the bench. This feels like a bit of a hole to try and fill, and like Tom, we could recruit a young fringe NRL prop that takes time to find their feet. Bringing someone in during this season, may not necessary have the immediate impact that we need, and that can apply to more experienced and well known players as well. If the right player came available then happy days, but we could have to wait until 2024 to get the right replacement. It's a shame we've lost him, and feels like an important a loss as Greg Mackey was when he left for Hull, or maybe, I'm just getting carried away with his performances over the first seven games.

Re: New signing needed now? : Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:40 am  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

If Mikaele had left at the end of 2022, then I would have been totally indifferent, but he's been a different player this year, both as a starting prop and off the bench. This feels like a bit of a hole to try and fill, and like Tom, we could recruit a young fringe NRL prop that takes time to find their feet. Bringing someone in during this season, may not necessary have the immediate impact that we need, and that can apply to more experienced and well known players as well. If the right player came available then happy days, but we could have to wait until 2024 to get the right replacement. It's a shame we've lost him, and feels like an important a loss as Greg Mackey was when he left for Hull, or maybe, I'm just getting carried away with his performances over the first seven games.

The difference between this season and last is that last year we needed a prop to come in, be a regular starter and basically hit the ground running - this time we need someone who can come in just to provide much needed depth to the squad, they won't necessarily make the 17 every week, but will provide adequate cover in games where we feel we can give Vaughan, and Kasiano a rest, or less time on the pitch during a game.

Re: New signing needed now? : Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:07 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

The difference between this season and last is that last year we needed a prop to come in, be a regular starter and basically hit the ground running - this time we need someone who can come in just to provide much needed depth to the squad, they won't necessarily make the 17 every week, but will provide adequate cover in games where we feel we can give Vaughan, and Kasiano a rest, or less time on the pitch during a game.

With what we've seen from Harrison, Bullock, Philbin (and hopefully Dudson will provide more than he has done), do you not think we should have enough depth to rotate our props, even allowing for injuries and stupidity?

Re: New signing needed now? : Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:17 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

With what we've seen from Harrison, Bullock, Philbin (and hopefully Dudson will provide more than he has done), do you not think we should have enough depth to rotate our props, even allowing for injuries and stupidity?

Has I pointed out in the opening post and from what we have seen so far this year, no, I don't think 7 props is enough.

Re: New signing needed now? : Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:27 pm  

I don't think we need to sign another prop - unless there is one at the level that would improve the team rather than just add numbers and do a job.
I expect numbers back after the Saints match, and possibly even Harrison at the Saints game. Not sure how Clark has made the team last week - shows he's prepared to go through the mill to help out in the short term.
I thought we had signed one too many forwards but now that Mikaele has gone (even though that has weakened the team) I'm ok with what we've got.
We were outgunned last weekend and this week will be another challenge without a doubt, but after that regardless of what anyone says it does become a bit easier and numbers come back.
We do need to give Vaughan a rest - we would have been in trouble if he had been one of the injured along with all of the others, but I genuinely believe we're through the worst.
Wakey are dreadful so maybe even though Vaughan may be in the 17, he may play a lot less minutes

Re: New signing needed now? : Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:06 pm  

fez1 wrote:

I don't think we need to sign another prop - unless there is one at the level that would improve the team rather than just add numbers and do a job.
I expect numbers back after the Saints match, and possibly even Harrison at the Saints game. Not sure how Clark has made the team last week - shows he's prepared to go through the mill to help out in the short term.
I thought we had signed one too many forwards but now that Mikaele has gone (even though that has weakened the team) I'm ok with what we've got.
We were outgunned last weekend and this week will be another challenge without a doubt, but after that regardless of what anyone says it does become a bit easier and numbers come back.
We do need to give Vaughan a rest - we would have been in trouble if he had been one of the injured along with all of the others, but I genuinely believe we're through the worst.
Wakey are dreadful so maybe even though Vaughan may be in the 17, he may play a lot less minutes

Vaughan will get a week off after the Saints game.

Re: New signing needed now? : Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:25 pm  

Or thane wrote:

No we don't need to sign a prop immediately, getting one straight away would be nice but like it has been said, by the Wakefield game we'll be 2-3 props up again and 2 weeks later Dudson will be back. But we do need another for the longer term, the international break will give Vaughan and Kasiano a much needed break. Plus Thomas and Green are slowly being blooded so they are both still an option.
Does anyone know why Green played such little minutes? Was it just to protect him from too much too soon, or do you think Powell might have not thought he was up to more minutes?

It was an intense, so not particularly the best game to bring him in, but his remit was little more than to buy Vaughany a ten min breather.
I saw him with his mam and dad after the game..,proud is the understatement for it how his mother was!
Please for them.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: New signing needed now? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:05 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

With what we've seen from Harrison, Bullock, Philbin (and hopefully Dudson will provide more than he has done), do you not think we should have enough depth to rotate our props, even allowing for injuries and stupidity?

I agree with this approach for the time being. I think that we've enough cover as it is particularly if all we can get is a squad filler.

Yes we are down to the bare bones, but without putting the mockers on it things should start picking up. It's always a gamble bringing new blood in. Let's get everyone available or as close to it as we can over the next few weeks and see what we might need to (if anything) to reinforce and rejuvenate the squad at the business end of the season which may not be a prop.

Signing someone just for the sake of numbers looks a little bit knee jerk to me

Re: New signing needed now? : Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:56 pm  

Karetaker

You spoke too soon.....

Gets a rest this week.
Un-bl00dy-believable