Re: Lee Mossop : Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:42 pm  

Not sure why so much hate for Mossop as he was a very good prospect as a young prop unfortunately he was one of Wigan's robots and played far too much Super League rugby for a front rower of his age. When he arrived at Parramatta they sent him straight for an operation on his shoulders that they reckoned he should of had 12 months previously.

Wigan just replaced him with another robot prop from their academy that will no doubt joined the list of Mossopp, Prescott, Tuson and others whose careers are pretty much done and dusted by their mid-twenties when as props they should be coming into their prime.

Clubs should have a duty of care to their players with consideration to longevity of career, I feel Mossop was let down in this area.

Re: Lee Mossop : Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:27 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Not sure why so much hate for Mossop as he was a very good prospect as a young prop unfortunately he was one of Wigan's robots and played far too much Super League rugby for a front rower of his age. When he arrived at Parramatta they sent him straight for an operation on his shoulders that they reckoned he should of had 12 months previously.

Wigan just replaced him with another robot prop from their academy that will no doubt joined the list of Mossopp, Prescott, Tuson and others whose careers are pretty much done and dusted by their mid-twenties when as props they should be coming into their prime.

Clubs should have a duty of care to their players with consideration to longevity of career, I feel Mossop was let down in this area.

Absolutely bob on! Mossop is not a bad player at all and will be an asset for whichever club he signs for

Re: Lee Mossop : Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:50 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Not sure why so much hate for Mossop as he was a very good prospect as a young prop unfortunately he was one of Wigan's robots and played far too much Super League rugby for a front rower of his age. When he arrived at Parramatta they sent him straight for an operation on his shoulders that they reckoned he should of had 12 months previously.

Wigan just replaced him with another robot prop from their academy that will no doubt joined the list of Mossopp, Prescott, Tuson and others whose careers are pretty much done and dusted by their mid-twenties when as props they should be coming into their prime.

Clubs should have a duty of care to their players with consideration to longevity of career, I feel Mossop was let down in this area.

I don't think it is a question of hate, merely questioning the signing of a player who can't last the course of a season with a recurring injury.

Regarding your duty of care comment; compare and contrast Mike Cooper.....

Re: Lee Mossop : Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:02 am  

i think he would be a decent signing if he stays fit.

i wouldnt complain if we brought him in

Re: Lee Mossop : Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:34 am  

It's a backrower we're short of, unless we are playing Sim in the 2nd row on occasions?

Re: Lee Mossop : Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:39 am  

A fit Lee Mossop is a valuable asset, I fear his shoulders are shot though.

Re: Lee Mossop : Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:45 am  

rubber duckie wrote:

It's a backrower we're short of, unless we are playing Sim in the 2nd row on occasions?

Well he was a direct replacement for waterhouse.

Re: Lee Mossop : Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:49 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Not sure why so much hate for Mossop as he was a very good prospect as a young prop unfortunately he was one of Wigan's robots and played far too much Super League rugby for a front rower of his age. When he arrived at Parramatta they sent him straight for an operation on his shoulders that they reckoned he should of had 12 months previously.

Wigan just replaced him with another robot prop from their academy that will no doubt joined the list of Mossopp, Prescott, Tuson and others whose careers are pretty much done and dusted by their mid-twenties when as props they should be coming into their prime.

Clubs should have a duty of care to their players with consideration to longevity of career, I feel Mossop was let down in this area.

This is an instance of someone having an irrational theory and then casting around for evidence to support it.

Mossop didn't have the op so that he could play in the world cup, nothing to do with Wigan. Chris Tuson never played prop. Paul Prescot would fit the theory as he was 26 when he finished - Who are the mysterious others?

Re: Lee Mossop : Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:44 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

Mossop didn't have the op so that he could play in the world cup, nothing to do with Wigan.

Irrational theory or not this would certainly support my assertion about Mossop being let down by his club in respect to duty of care for longevity of his career. For a club and its medical staff to allow a player to play on for a season needing an operation in the hope he would be anything more than a bit part player in a world cup because he wants to is without a doubt an abandonment of their duty of care.

As for other players I see that Greg Burke has gone out on loan, there's another one who has suffered from injuries since playing 20+ games as a prop in a season at a very early stage of development. Eamon O'Carroll is another.

Now you tell me which of Wigan's academy produced props have matured into their careers rather than peaking early and fading away generally under an injury cloud?

Re: Lee Mossop : Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:16 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Irrational theory or not this would certainly support my assertion about Mossop being let down by his club in respect to duty of care for longevity of his career. For a club and its medical staff to allow a player to play on for a season needing an operation in the hope he would be anything more than a bit part player in a world cup because he wants to is without a doubt an abandonment of their duty of care.

As for other players I see that Greg Burke has gone out on loan, there's another one who has suffered from injuries since playing 20+ games as a prop in a season at a very early stage of development. Eamon O'Carroll is another.

Now you tell me which of Wigan's academy produced props have matured into their careers rather than peaking early and fading away generally under an injury cloud?

Ben Kavanagh at Widnes.