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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:30 pm  
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The right choice at hooker I see.

It's a slight embarassment that Menzies is in the Dream Team though isn't it? He must be 39 now?


Not really.

Age is just a number isn't it, on the occasions I've seen Catalans this year he's been fantastic, the game against Bradford on SKY stands out when Ferriol got his marching orders.

They've taken plenty of big scalps this year and have played without Bosc all year, his leadership will have been invaluable.
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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:35 pm  
http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

Compare Menzies to Westwood.

You won't get too many on here saying that Westwood isn't a deserved inclusion, well for me, Menzies stats are equally as impressive, irrespective of his age.
http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011

Compare Menzies to Westwood.

You won't get too many on here saying that Westwood isn't a deserved inclusion, well for me, Menzies stats are equally as impressive, irrespective of his age.
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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:35 pm  
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The right choice at hooker I see.

Sad One you are way off the mark, Monas has been the best Hooker in the comp this year without doubt.
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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:39 pm  
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Sad One you are way off the mark, Monas has been the best Hooker in the comp this year without doubt.

I'd maybe agree he's been the best hooker, but its not without doubt. Roby has been awesome all year, they are just different styles of player.
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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:42 pm  
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Mike Monaghan left out :shock:

Could not be more shocked, best player in the league for me this season


Leave the club bias out of it and take a look at Roby. It's impossible to leave him out. He is a phenom.

Averaging, thats right averaging, nigh on 200m and 40 tackles a game.
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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:45 pm  
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Has a player ever been MOS but not in the dream team?


Roby and Monaghan are both great players but Monaghan has a problem and its a major one.

Sorry he is not Roby. Roby seems to be the darling of some of the media i would have had Monaghan in as the better of the 2. But Roby got MOS 2-3 years ago when clearly Trent Barrett was the better player.

I do believe he might be the love Child of Stevo :IDEA:

For legal purposes thats a joke.

If he is not in the dream team i dont think he will get MOS but i might be wrong. Personally i think Sam Tomkins has produced some incredible stuff this season and so has Monaghan. I just hope one of them gets it and not Roby.
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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:45 pm  
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Has a player ever been MOS but not in the dream team?


The MOS is selected from the dream team I think.
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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:46 pm  
SL coaches have to produce strategies/gameplans to stop the likes of Monaghan, Roby, Tomkins, Chase, Briers, Lomax etc each week. I suspect that if it was they rather than a bunch of journos who came up with the dream team we would see some different faces.

If the players get to vote on their peers for Man Of Steel, then I think the SL coaches should vote the Dream Team.
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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:48 pm  
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Leave the club bias out of it and take a look at Roby. It's impossible to leave him out. He is a phenom.

Averaging, thats right averaging, nigh on 200m and 40 tackles a game.


To the detriment of Saints at times I imagine... Saints get a roll on, have the opposition disorganised, and instead of swinging the ball out and scoring, Roby darts 10 metres up the pitch and is tackles.

Whereas Monaghan 9 times out of ten will choose the right option, and is a big reason for us amassing so many points this season.

This is the reason the aussies beat us so comfortably, they have player with brains and skills, we just have brawn.
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Re: 2011 Dream Team : Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:49 pm  
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I'd maybe agree he's been the best hooker, but its not without doubt.

Yes on 2nd thoughts he has not been the clear best hooker in the Comp and Roby has been great for Saints.
But Monas should have been in the SL Dream team ahead of Roby.
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