: Sun May 17, 2009 6:56 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

Whoever comes in, the signing of 'star' players will be a thing of the past, if Smith's recruitment at Leeds is anything to go by.

What you mean like Brent Webb, Scott Donald, Jamie Peacock, Ali Lauitiiti who was in big demand at the time and the big money transfer of Gareth Ellis etc. I hope he can unearth us a younger version of Ali Lauitiiti

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Sun May 17, 2009 7:09 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

I also think we need a right centre, when you release a player of the standard that Martin Gleeson was then your replacement should be at least a match for the player your letting go or better, i don`t see Chris Bridge as anywhere near in the same mould as Martin Gleeson. Chris Bridge does some very good things but he also does some erratic things and takes a lot of wrong options.
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What are these erratic things Rob?

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Sun May 17, 2009 8:06 pm  

Mark wrote:

What are these erratic things Rob?

As you know yourself he holds onto the ball for far too long at times, he is an individual type glory player that can be far too greedy for his own good.

The Hull 2nd try was down to Chris Bridge`s feeble attempt to tackle Danny Tickle where he just stuck an arm out as if it was tick n pass and Danny Tickle just brushed him off, that was on the back of a poor attempt by Briers as well.

At the end of the 1st half, he put himself in a position where he could easily be tackled over the touchline and was by Kirk Yeaman, he was never going to round a quality defender like Yeaman. He should have stepped back inside to give us the chance of a high bomb on the last tackle which would have been a great time to score as it would have been right on half time.

Ive also seen him throw passes straight into touch or behind Chris Hicks, its as if passing isn`t natural to him which would explain why he hasn`t cut it at stand off and why he hangs onto the ball for too long at times.

: Sun May 17, 2009 8:08 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

I wouldn`t lose too much sleep if that happened, he could keep Michael Monaghan company on the way home. Matt King for me is a massive waste of salary cap as is Michael Monaghan.

King and Monaghan out; Sonny-Bill and the Gas in, Rob?

: Sun May 17, 2009 8:10 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

What you mean like Brent Webb, Scott Donald, Jamie Peacock, Ali Lauitiiti who was in big demand at the time and the big money transfer of Gareth Ellis etc. I hope he can unearth us a younger version of Ali Lauitiiti

With the possible exception of Peacock, I wouldn't call them stars. If memory serves, hadn't Lauititi been on the outer at the Warriors when Leeds signed him?

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Sun May 17, 2009 8:12 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

As you know yourself he holds onto the ball for far too long at times, he is an individual type glory player that can be far too greedy for his own good.

The Hull 2nd try was down to Chris Bridge`s feeble attempt to tackle Danny Tickle where he just stuck an arm out as if it was tick n pass and Danny Tickle just brushed him off, that was on the back of a poor attempt by Briers as well.

At the end of the 1st half, he put himself in a position where he could easily be tackled over the touchline and was by Kirk Yeaman, he was never going to round a quality defender like Yeaman. He should have stepped back inside to give us the chance of a high bomb on the last tackle which would have been a great time to score as it would have been right on half time.

Ive also seen him throw passes straight into touch or behind Chris Hicks, its as if passing isn`t natural to him which would explain why he hasn`t cut it at stand off and why he hangs onto the ball for too long at times.

He was on the wing till the second half Rob, when he's at centre he's been bob on which was you original point.

: Sun May 17, 2009 8:13 pm  

getdownmonkeyman wrote: With the possible exception of Peacock, I wouldn't call them stars. If memory serves, hadn't Lauititi been on the outer at the Warriors when Leeds signed him? Read what it says about Ali Lauititi on wikipedia "Ali joined the Rhinos in May 2004 from NRL side the New Zealand Warriors on a two and a half year contract. When he was released from his contract with the Warriors it sparked a world wide chase for his signature. However, the Rhinos beat competition from 14 other clubs in Australia and England to secure the second rower." Thats what i call an in demand player. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Lauitiiti

getdownmonkeyman wrote: With the possible exception of Peacock, I wouldn't call them stars. If memory serves, hadn't Lauititi been on the outer at the Warriors when Leeds signed him? Read what it says about Ali Lauititi on wikipedia "Ali joined the Rhinos in May 2004 from NRL side the New Zealand Warriors on a two and a half year contract. When he was released from his contract with the Warriors it sparked a world wide chase for his signature. However, the Rhinos beat competition from 14 other clubs in Australia and England to secure the second rower." Thats what i call an in demand player. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Lauitiiti

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Sun May 17, 2009 8:18 pm  

Mark wrote:

He was on the wing till the second half Rob, when he's at centre he's been bob on which was you original point.

I know where he started the game, you asked me to point out the erratic things, you didn`t ask me to comment on his previous games at centre.

Where ever he was on the field it doesn`t forgive his feeble attempt on Danny Tickle which lead to Hull`s second try.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Sun May 17, 2009 8:24 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

I know where he started the game, you asked me to point out the erratic things, you didn`t ask me to comment on his previous games at centre.

Where ever he was on the field it doesn`t forgive his feeble attempt on Danny Tickle which lead to Hull`s second try.

But it was in reference to us needing a right centre as he does erratic thing;s, my point is that when playing at right centre he's been fine.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Sun May 17, 2009 8:31 pm  

Mark wrote:

But it was in reference to us needing a right centre as he does erratic thing;s, my point is that when playing at right centre he's been fine.

You obviously believe that we don`t need a right centre to make us into serious contenders for silverware and i do, thats called opinions. My own opinion is that Chris Bridge is a backward step from Martin Gleeson.

Bridge has always been an individual type glory player where greed gets the better of him sometimes, as i pointed out with the Danny Tickle try he was at fault for that with a feeble one arm, attempted shirt grab, ive seen him do similar before.

Does he give me confidence in defence, No. Does he give me the confidence that he will take the right options at centre instead of hanging onto the ball for too long, thats a no as well. Is he a good squad player to have, that would be a yes.