: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:49 am  

Jesus Of Suburbia wrote:

Wouldn't class him as a new signing, more of a afterthought.

I can imagine the conversation with wigan went something like:

Wigan: £100k for Gleeson

Wire: Erm... not sure

Wigan: Ok, we'll throw Mathers in for free

Wire: Deal

Rubbish.

I bet as such, the deals were two seperate entities only linked by value, ie, Gleeson to Wigan, £100-120k, Mathers to Warrington £20k, knocked off the £120k, so just £100k. Had Mathers not joined Warrington, It wouldn't have impacted on the Gleeson transfer.

Obviously all values made up. If you think Smith would just 'take a player' that he's not too fussed about having, your daft. Everything he has done since his arrival has been about shaping this team to become 'his team'.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:52 am  

JWP wrote:

Everything he has done since his arrival has been about shaping this team to become 'his team'.

does that include sidelining kev penny and ousting stuart reardon?

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:11 am  

RL Lover wrote:

does that include sidelining kev penny and ousting stuart reardon?

So Kevin Penny was playing regular football before Tony Smith took the helm?

As for Reardon, it was one of the best things Smith has done since he's been here.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:23 am  

RL Lover wrote:

does that include sidelining kev penny and ousting stuart reardon?

Didn't Smith used to keep Burrows on the bench for Leeds when he was coach for a good while?

Smith knows how to bring the young lads through, and if Penny can't develop under sombody like him, well that's down to Penny.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:10 pm  

Dave T wrote:

Didn't Smith used to keep Burrows on the bench for Leeds when he was coach for a good while?

Smith knows how to bring the young lads through, and if Penny can't develop under sombody like him, well that's down to Penny.

after watching penny for the reserves yesterday i cant see him being in the first team for along time.

mathers didnt do much either. two passes that went straight into touch.he shouted alot. just back from an injury so needs to get abit of form back maybe.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:05 pm  

I agree re Mathers he didn't do much, expected more from someone of his standing. If you read Warrington Wolves website Mathers is supposed to have been outstanding. He must of been at a different game. He had a solid Performance as did alot of them. He did shout alot but to no effect, I realise he has just come back from an op, so don't want to appear too harsh and given time and if he earns his stripes he may well be an asset. But lets not say he was outstanding, when he wasn't. Riley is working hard and has shown some form and deserves his shirt.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:57 pm  

gogreen wrote:

I agree re Mathers he didn't do much, expected more from someone of his standing. If you read Warrington Wolves website Mathers is supposed to have been outstanding. He must of been at a different game. He had a solid Performance as did alot of them. He did shout alot but to no effect, I realise he has just come back from an op, so don't want to appear too harsh and given time and if he earns his stripes he may well be an asset. But lets not say he was outstanding, when he wasn't. Riley is working hard and has shown some form and deserves his shirt.

he was no way outstanding. i didnt even know he was on for the first ten mins.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:23 pm  

Don't see how Mathers can replace Riley at full back, with his two tries today, he deserves his place.
If only he could desist from causing chaos when the opposition kick the ball high and he can tend to get in the way.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:24 pm  

Richeastender wrote:

Don't see how Mathers can replace Riley at full back, with his two tries today, he deserves his place.
If only he could desist from causing chaos when the opposition kick the ball high and he can tend to get in the way.

If he is injured he will - Riley was limping @ the end of the match with his thigh iced up