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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:10 pm  
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His debut against Wigan he was superb, long time ago mind. The Saints fans were spot on when they let him go, he's ok when the team are 20-30 points up but when we are up against it, he goes missing. Can't see TS keeping him beyond this season.


What about when we are not up against it and are 4 points ahead... for example?
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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:16 pm  
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What about when we are not up against it and are 4 points ahead... for example?
He still flatters to decive. You think he's worth keeping hold of then?
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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:12 pm  
IMO they both aren't good enough. They are out of contract at the end of the season and haven't done enough to warrant new contracts, get shut of.
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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:17 pm  
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Lazyitis ?!
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Lazyitis ?!
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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:34 pm  
so you tell me in the last two seasons when has vinnie had a stand out game
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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:42 pm  
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His debut against Wigan he was superb, long time ago mind. The Saints fans were spot on when they let him go, he's ok when the team are 20-30 points up but when we are up against it, he goes missing. Can't see TS keeping him beyond this season.


When the love have we been 20-30 points up against anyone!
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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:45 pm  
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IMO they both aren't good enough. They are out of contract at the end of the season and haven't done enough to warrant new contracts, get shut of.


Agree 100% with this .
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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:48 pm  
I think the main thing with Vinnie is that nobody seems quite sure what he's supposed to be, if you get my drift... :?

Is he a ball-player?, is he a bulldozer type player?, is he a tackling machine?.....To be honest, he seems to be a Jack of all these trades, but not quite the master of any.

New contract?...No, its time to find a proper Sinfield/Sculthorpe sort of back rower, who is capable of leading the team, and dominating the game.
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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:48 pm  
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. The Saints fans were spot on when they let him go, .


we usually are
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: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:57 pm  
Neither of the Andersons respect the football enough, which is a sin. The team must defend half a dozen extra sets a game because of this. In terms of work ethic, I have no issue with Vinnie, I do think Louis could do more, but my issue with Vinnie is his desire to offload in impossible situations. I also don't think he looks anywhere near as threatening as he used to, the first season we had him, he was scoring full length tries & good tries closer to the line, this seems to have gone from his game.
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