Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:39 pm  

There is no perfect solution. But i do not believe the ref. really thought it was a try ... but his best guess was that it could have been.
The video ref. just seemed to give it without really looking at it closely.
If the on field could send it up with... "Not a clue so it's up to you" we might get some better decisions.

Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:31 pm  

[quote="karetaker"]Not so sure about Ratchford, he was not the worse but it was not great. Don’t know who this Russell is you talk of, think him and Musgrove went out for coffee somewhere. Williams was miles off. Lindop was good Vaughan looked good making good metres, Dufty got going in the 2nd half. It is only the first game of the season so a lot to work on and can’t really get down on them since we got the win and that’s important.[/quote]
Thought Musgrove was our best prop today

Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:51 pm  

Playing Steph and Aaron gave the team a little more size over Leyland and Tai that was lost in our pack.
They probably made the difference of a much closer scoreline.

Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:52 pm  

matt_wire wrote:

Not having the "it's round one" brigade. That's why we have friendlies, the intensity of Wigan, Leigh and dare I say, Cas this weekend disprove that line of thinking. Anyway a wins a win and we've got off to a winning start at least.

It is round one it's like your 1st day in a new job get the 1stfew rounds out the way then normality resumes

Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:54 pm  

Currie and Russell in defence, and Musgrove in go-forward were the best of our lighter pack imo.

Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:57 pm  

On a more positive note, we looked pants early last season by scraping wins against poor teams. We got more into it as the season went along. I know the pre-season should have been better this year than last as we know the structure, but at least we know we can stay in games.

Let's see where we are after Vegas.

Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:48 pm  

Currie was our best. Back row is vulnerable, Holroyd and Russell were ok but feel like they are plugging gaps rather than them being there on purpose.

Dufty turned it around towards the end but wasn’t great if we’re honest. Same with Walker, as the game went on he got better.

Don’t get the Vaughan and King comments, again. But everyone needs a scapegoat I suppose.

A win and a clean bill of health, we’ll take that for round 1

Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:57 pm  

Defences well on top in the games I watched. Sides are holding down but only for a brief time so difficult to penalise. I don't think speccies will be happy if defences continue to dominate the game. The fact that Wigan haven't had a try scored against them for so long is a worry. Might have to tinker with some laws if this continues.

Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:58 pm  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Currie was our best. Back row is vulnerable, Holroyd and Russell were ok but feel like they are plugging gaps rather than them being there on purpose.

Dufty turned it around towards the end but wasn’t great if we’re honest. Same with Walker, as the game went on he got better.

Don’t get the Vaughan and King comments, again. But everyone needs a scapegoat I suppose.

A win and a clean bill of health, we’ll take that for round 1

Must have missed it I didn’t see any negative comments about Vaughan, I actually thought he was good making good meters after contact.

Re: Today’s match v Giants : Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:13 pm  

We looked under cooked and a bit rusty today, but to be honest that`s how we should be.

Early season excellent form usually shows that a team has hit the wraps before their rivals, and as other teams catch-up then they can be left behind e.g Daryl Powell`s last season at Wire.

It`s end of season form that matters and a slow start can be beneficial, if we we can stay in the mix until later.

I was disappointed with the Ratchford selection at 7 instead of Leyland but hopefully Oli will grab the spot when he gets the opportunity.

For me the only way Ratchford should be in our 17, is as a substitute, where he can cover halfback, centre, hooker and loose forward but with Powell on the bench too, that would make it too light. So it would be either a choice between Powell and Ratchford but not both.