Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:59 pm  

Douglas Black wrote:

I'd say something like 60% of drop outs became short drop outs. Some very high with no angle but more out on either side to the centre area. Of those, I reckon about half were retained by the defending team. About 10% probably resulted in the tap to the attacking team.

Thank you. That is quite a change to the game.
In a sport that is trying hard to reduce injury I think this might cause collisions as balls in the air with lots of players attacking the ball is bound to cause the odd problem.

Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:01 pm  

All I know about short kick-offs is it cost Brisbane a grand final win. Commanding lead and 3 times went with short drop out which Penrith scored from. At the time I was perplexed as to why they didn’t just hoof it up the field. Fine if you are chasing points and want to get the ball back but not when you have a good lead.

Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:05 pm  

There doesn't seem to be much relationship between the score and whether they go long or short. More that some coaches/teams just seem to like it. And some players go short pretty much all the time.

I haven't noticed that many big collisions, probably less than a forward charging it back in off a long drop out.

Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:42 pm  

Douglas Black wrote:

There doesn't seem to be much relationship between the score and whether they go long or short. More that some coaches/teams just seem to like it. And some players go short pretty much all the time.

I haven't noticed that many big collisions, probably less than a forward charging it back in off a long drop out.

Very interesting. I suppose I always watch out for players getting battered from high kicks. In this case the defenders all start from just over 10 yards away. The kickers will be practising their short drop out skills from tomorrow morning & ought to be good at it by the start of the season. Those receiving the kicks will be working on subtle obstructions & looking forward to the relatively new fun of catching a high ball under pressure. Full backs & wingers have traditionally had the sole pleasure but soon the joy of catching a high ball with opposition approaching will be enjoyed by all.

Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:31 pm  

The other rule tweaked regarding players being offside at kicks not being pinged unless they interfere with play. How many try’s did we see chalked off even when the player within 10 had no effect on the outcome. Glad to see common sense prevailed at last.

Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:03 am  

Smiffy27 wrote:

There will be more teams trying to kick short drop outs (i.e just over 10m line). If it fails to reach the ten metre line all that happens is that the kicking team lose the ball rather than a penalty.

I didn't get it either as it is just a penalty kick i.e. kick to touch wasn't it, or a tap restart on the 10m line, it has now changed to a PTB on the 10m line, where is the difference in it

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:07 am  

karetaker wrote:

All I know about short kick-offs is it cost Brisbane a grand final win. Commanding lead and 3 times went with short drop out which Penrith scored from. At the time I was perplexed as to why they didn’t just hoof it up the field. Fine if you are chasing points and want to get the ball back but not when you have a good lead.

Also cost Salford the points at Wigan when Sneyd went short and Wardle went in. I think there's a time and a place perhaps not when you are up with 5 minutes to go?

Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:57 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

Also cost Salford the points at Wigan when Sneyd went short and Wardle went in. I think there's a time and a place perhaps not when you are up with 5 minutes to go?

Agree but what do we know

Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:12 am  

karetaker wrote:

Agree but what do we know

The Short Drop Out has obviously become a bit of a thing to do in Oz because of the new law. You would think it would catch on here too.

Re: Refs referring it to video as a try or not : Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:44 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

The Short Drop Out has obviously become a bit of a thing to do in Oz because of the new law. You would think it would catch on here too.

Probably, I mean Leeds were doing it for a short time till they saw it was not working for them and the ironic cheer from their fans when they went long for first time. But like Uncle Rico said there is a time and place for it.