Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:22 pm  

Michigan red wrote:

Couldn't this in the end ultimately disturb Cas more than us. Marc plays a blinder at Magic Weekend and Powell is happy too tell the world that he wants to sign him thus potentially unsettling our player.

We enter into negotiations with him and make it very plain that we expect him to honour the remainder of his contract with us and that both parties allegedly discuss converting him into a hooker.

Marc is touted round by his son of Salford agent (Blease I hope never darkens our door again) and the player puts in a transfer request.

Now surely if say a Saints or Warrington came in with a bid too purchase him immediately we would do just that meaning that Castlesfords lynch pin this season is sold from under their feet potentially destabilising their campaign and them dropping further down the ladder (they already looked like a bubble has burst at Wigan last week).

I guess for that scenario too happen us selling player with immediate effect would null and void his season long loan move.

Ha ha! That's got the makings of a Hollywood blockbuster!

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:43 pm  

I’m torn on his reception;

a) I hope he gets a good reception, would be a shame to things turn sour between the fans and the player. He deserves our support, the club loaned him out, he’s proved a point at Cas thus far yet the club sign another Australian on a big contract to play in his position. If he knows the fans are still with him, he may decide to work harder than he has this season to force his way into our starting 13.

b) He deserves all the sh*t he gets. Going on loan was meant to assist his development as a Salford player, yet his head has been turned after 4 months of good performances. After Salford have brought him through their youth system, gave him his first Super League opportunity he disrespect the fans and the club by handing in a transfer request despite having 18 months left on his contract. One summer doesn’t make a swallow, to big for his boots and we’ve signed a better player in Dobson. Let him go for the right price.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:59 pm  

Regarding point B above, he doesn't really owe Salford anything. He has waited long enough for his chance, yet despite years at Salford the first club to give him a regular starting spot has been Cas.

However, I agree that we should let him go for the right price. We could end up with a situation where Cas end up with a Salford half back (Sneyd) whilst Salford end up with a Cas half back (Brierley).

Interesting times.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:00 pm  

Michigan red wrote:

Couldn't this in the end ultimately disturb Cas more than us. Marc plays a blinder at Magic Weekend and Powell is happy too tell the world that he wants to sign him thus potentially unsettling our player.

We enter into negotiations with him and make it very plain that we expect him to honour the remainder of his contract with us and that both parties allegedly discuss converting him into a hooker.

Marc is touted round by his son of Salford agent (Blease I hope never darkens our door again) and the player puts in a transfer request.

Now surely if say a Saints or Warrington came in with a bid too purchase him immediately we would do just that meaning that Castlesfords lynch pin this season is sold from under their feet potentially destabilising their campaign and them dropping further down the ladder (they already looked like a bubble has burst at Wigan last week).

I guess for that scenario too happen us selling player with immediate effect would null and void his season long loan move.

We lose at Wigan last Friday and you think our bubble has burst ? That's funny

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:01 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

Well Sneyd isn't doing a bad job at Cas. Dobson however did ok at Hull KR, but hasn't had much of a chance at the Knights. He will probably be better than Tim Smith, but does he have much improvment in him? Sneyd on the other hand, you would have to think, has a lot more potential in the long run. I would have thought that after the likes of Melli and Puletua you would be fed up of short term signings? Why not carry on your investment in Sneyd?

What is obvious to everyone is that you need a hooker. Logan will be back at Wigan next season.

I'm not sure Sneyd is the organiser at Cas. I think that's more Liam Finn's role. If only there were some Cas fans on here who could tell us who's right. For me, Salford's dilemma is not Dobson or Sneyd, but Chase or Sneyd.

You're right about us needing a hooker though. Hopefully, we'll get Gareth Owen back from his season long loan, but we still need another one. Logan has been great for us, and I'd have been happy to see him stay (over Clark, to be honest), but it looks like that won't happen.

We also need a couple of props and a centre. This might be where Marc Sneyd's value lies: clubs could start offering props and hookers in swap deals.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:04 pm  

Michigan red wrote:

Marc is touted round by his son of Salford agent (Blease I hope never darkens our door again) and the player puts in a transfer request.

Why? Ian Blease's duty is to the player, not the club. Given that Marc seems unlikely to be a first choice player if he stays at Salford, Blease would be in dereliction of that duty if he didn't try to secure a move for him.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:09 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

Anyone want to hazard a guess at the reception Sneyd will get next week?

I really, really hope he gets a decent, welcoming reception from us. Two reasons:
1. Some of the Cas, Widnes and Warrington fans that come on here seem to have the mental age of a shirt button. I feel embarrassed for them sometimes. Please let us not fall into the same trap.
2. If there's still a chance he'll change his mind - or if he is going to be with us next season - giving him a load of childish abuse isn't going to make him stay, or to put the effort in if he does stay.

I hope we'll be on our best behaviour, but I fear our tit-fed crew will let us down.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:26 pm  

I anticipate a split reception. The d*ckhead element will boo him, the majority will cheer him and hopefully sing him a few songs.

“Don’t go and sign for Cas, cos’ when we win the league it’s gonna be f*cking class“

....ok I’ll leave the songs to someone else.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:34 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

I anticipate a split reception. The d*ckhead element will boo him, the majority will cheer him and hopefully sing him a few songs.

What are you going to sing for him? So long, farewell from the Sound of Music?

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:39 pm  

Red John wrote:

I'm not sure Sneyd is the organiser at Cas. I think that's more Liam Finn's role. If only there were some Cas fans on here who could tell us who's right. For me, Salford's dilemma is not Dobson or Sneyd, but Chase or Sneyd.

You're right about us needing a hooker though. Hopefully, we'll get Gareth Owen back from his season long loan, but we still need another one. Logan has been great for us, and I'd have been happy to see him stay (over Clark, to be honest), but it looks like that won't happen.

We also need a couple of props and a centre. This might be where Marc Sneyd's value lies: clubs could start offering props and hookers in swap deals.

I dont think that either Sneyd or Finn are complete organisers as such but they both play in a system and have been doing it very well. I am not sure how Sneyd will go when he is removed from that system either and I certainly could see problems with him playing alongside Chase. Sneyd is not anywhere near the finished article either still makes too many errors and needs to improve his tackling. He has benefitted this season because Cas have in the main being playing on the front foot behind a good pack.
I can see why the signing of Dobson would have got to Sneyd and he has to do whats best for him.
I dont quite understand the why the Dr says players/agents should not dictate to clubs when he was quite happy when Chase and his agent did much the same to Cas just last year and I am sure in that case that the agent would have been in early and regular contact with Salford (and probably other clubs as well) throughout the deal. I dont see a difference at all.