Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:46 pm  

Wayward Fan wrote:

I remember the captain of the union team at my university tried to block our path at every turn when we first started up a rugby league team. He lobbied the management of the university to block our application for recognition/funding, tried to have us banned from using the university sports grounds, threatened to ban any of their players who turned out to play for us and, when all that failed, he then tried to get us banned from using the word rugby in the name of the club in case it 'confused' anyone.

I found this bloke's ignorance and bigotry towards another sport completely baffling, but I'd like to think that the world has changed for the better. I can understand why some on here are apprehensive, but I'm disappointed that more people aren't able to keep more of an open mind before condemning and judging those - from both clubs - seem sincere in their wish to make things work.

The proof of the pudding will be in the eating but it's a shame that one or two people seem to offer the impression that they want problems to emerge.

Your top paragraph sums up perfectly why we should not trust Sale Sharks and Rugby Union. Times haven't changed as much as you think, they think they're better than us and will try to block things just like the union captain you allude to did, but a much bigger scale. And with the weakness of our management and lack of backbone, then they will walk all over us. I honestly hand heart cannot see how Sale coming will have any benefit to us and I've listened to countless arguments on here, still nothing has changed my mind. We need to be wary of these leeches and I for one will not be welcoming them with open arms.

Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:42 pm  

Ave It! wrote:

they think they're better than us

Ave It! wrote:

And with the weakness of our management and lack of backbone

Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:02 pm  

EX.SALF.UNI wrote:

:lol:

Yet again you offer nothing to the debate. If you don't think that Rugby Union, its fans and players think they're better than us then fine offer me a counter argument. If you think the people running our club won't be bullied by Sale's big cheeses then fine. Explain to me what we will do/are doing to stop this happening? Sale have had one open day so far with another one today and they've already made more of the stadium than we have in nearly half a season.

Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:06 pm  

Wayward Fan wrote:

The proof of the pudding will be in the eating but it's a shame that one or two people seem to offer the impression that they want problems to emerge.

One or two
I can not think of a positive thing that will come of this.
They will try to nick or players.
They will try to nick fans in the area.
We are bound to see Sharks (put whatever you want in front of that) soon to be put on the stadium frontage.
They will eventually want to take over a ground they have had fook all to do with in the first place.

They are parasites who have hit lucky and will make the most of the free opportunity given to them.
Do not associate with or help them, we are working class oiks according to the majority of Sale and Rah Rah fans

When the original poster stated in a earlier e-mail he had no idea there was a football club in Salford summed up their mentality.
Just waiting for the comments on the Brookhouse Estate and Eccles town centre from the to$$ers

Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:12 pm  

Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:

Bobby is listed as a friend in the group

I think its good to have a platform for any unsportsman like conduct by eather club to be highlighted....rather than just bitching about it on here you know

To be fair sale is fair game for marketing, been here nearly 2 years, not one poster or presence in the town their advertiser is worse than ours for it comes to coverages

Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:20 pm  

Prestwich Red wrote:

Do not associate with or help them, we are working class oiks according to the majority of Sale and Rah Rah fans

Simply not true. I'd wager that a majority of Sale fans will be League fans as well, or at least have a passing interest in the sport, and I've never seen/heard any speaking in the way you suggest about League fans.

Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:33 pm  

Ave It! wrote:

Yet again you offer nothing to the debate. If you don't think that Rugby Union, its fans and players think they're better than us then fine offer me a counter argument. If you think the people running our club won't be bullied by Sale's big cheeses then fine. Explain to me what we will do/are doing to stop this happening? Sale have had one open day so far with another one today and they've already made more of the stadium than we have in nearly half a season.

To discuss the latter part of your post. Your complaining about sale doing things the right way! Probably made to look so much better by the complete disaster or board made of the only and only chance they had to move to a new home in style and encourage potential new supporters. That's not sales fault its ours.
Also if our board do get bullied by another organization on a similar contract will tell us everything we need to know about the quality of their management.

It seems to me a large part of this hatred of sale is more due to the realisation of many that our club probably are the potential makers of their own destruction.

If salford can't become a success its not sales fault

Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:38 pm  

Prestwich Red: When the original poster stated in a earlier e-mail he had no idea there was a football club in Salford summed up their mentality.

Just why should I know that there's a football club in Salford? It's not a sport that I follow and to be frank I'd be hard pressed to name more than a few teams in the football league. That doesn't mean I feel antagonistic to those sporting clubs.

Perhaps you can tell me the names of all the football and other sporting clubs in, say, Bishops Stortford? Or Chester?

No? So why should I know clubs, in a sport which doesn't interest me, in Salford? I don't live there.

I'm interested in theatre, perhaps you could tell me the names of all the theatres, both professional and amateur in Salford?

No?

It may not be an interest of yours and, if it isn't, I wouldn't expect you to know them.

So why should I know of Salford's various sporting clubs, whatever sport they might play?

Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:39 pm  

Ave It! wrote:

Yet again you offer nothing to the debate.

You were debating something?

Ave It! wrote:

If you don't think that Rugby Union, its fans and players think they're better than us then fine offer me a counter argument.

I could point to hundreds of examples on these message boards of folk bad-mouthing and dismissing rugby union as sh*te. Why are they not free to do the same?

Ave It! wrote:

If you think the people running our club won't be bullied by Sale's big cheeses then fine. Explain to me what we will do/are doing to stop this happening?

Well, unlike your deeply considered rant comparing us to one person's university club - I don't profess to know exactly what's around the corner. I would like to add though, that during my University studies the League/Union lads got on fine. We enjoyed some healthy banter socially and borrowed players when squads were slim.

Ave It! wrote:

Sale have had one open day so far with another one today and they've already made more of the stadium than we have in nearly half a season.

Irrelevant. Our problems will continue with or without Sale's presence.

Re: A message from a Sale supporter : Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:18 pm  

Chill gentlemen.
As some of you may be aware I am also a Sale supporter and regular poster on the equivalent of this board.

iBozz has just offered to meet up for a drink pre-or post match. He is not intent on any form of subversion.

Anyone who has an inkling of the origins of League has a large degree of sympathy with those on here who still have significant abhorrance of all things union.
We ourselves often refer to those days as shamateurism.

But in all honesty most of us weren't alive then, is it not time to move on ( whilst of course treading carefully and watchfully?)
It's a different millenium, most of us watch Superleague and many attend the odd game. Both games can thrive in the North West.
We mutually have far more to gain by conversing and helping improve public transport provision, ordinary supporter facilities and shuttle services to Salford City Stadium.

Yes occasionally we might tread on toes by being indelicate but insult is not intended. For example adopting 'Dirty Old Town ' was suggested years ago on our board during the PSA and Seabass years - originally because Sale translates as 'dirty' in French -it's a northern anthem, not exclusively a Salford one!).

There is an opportunity here to work together in areas which will benefit all supporters.
Steotypes are just that; forget them .
Share a pint pre or post match and I think you will find we have far more in common than we can express on here.
Besides....... iBozz is clearly buying!