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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:26 pm  
Are we really that gullible to believe that is what happened ???... The club have messed up... and will blame whoever. It's easy to say that we did everything right when we are all kicking off about it.

How many times have we had the wool pulled over our eyes over the years... yet people would suddenly believe the club when they are passing the buck.

"It wasn't our fault... it was that Angela Powers... She didn't pass on the message to Eddie"

Some will believe anything rather than our own failings.
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:32 pm  
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Some will believe anything rather than our own failings.


Please note my previously stated opinions on the c**p excuse of a stadium we're being lumbered with and how I believe this is partly the fault of the club.

My opinion of the said journo stands and I completely believe that she'll have done, or not done, what has been suggested by the club.

Perhaps some will believe that everything negative to do with the club is undoubtedly the clubs fault? Let's face it, we'll never really know the truth.
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:40 pm  
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How many times have we had the wool pulled over our eyes over the years... yet people would suddenly believe the club when they are passing the buck... Some will believe anything rather than our own failings.


In this particular case, I do have sympathy with the club. The joint venture no doubt has to agree on press releases and other communications, so there'll be a clash of each partners' own departments and, therefore, egos. Messages have to go through more channels, some of which may get lost or distorted. If one of the partners doesn't want to release anything, then nothing gets released. Plus, I bet there's a few councillors sweating over any negativity because there's no shortage of opponents regarding the loan to build the new stadium.

Publicly, this is making the club look like amateurs to us and deceptive to opposition supporters. With hindsight, perhaps it would have been a better idea for the club to distance itself from the new stadium, publicly, as soon as RCD went under. Really, the JV should have its own PR outlet for enquiries such as this; I think they are being overly secretive. However, as I've just mentioned above, internal and external politics must be a huge issue.

theredshed wrote:
The Salford Star never seem to report anything positive about the rugby club. Simple answer they aren't interested because they gain nothing from it on a political level!


That's not necessarily the case. Salford Star want to be supportive team matters and are aware of the good work the foundation does for example, particularly the work they did in Broughton. The issue is that the editor and, seemingly, its current pool of writers don't follow the Reds or rugby league. I wrote a couple of articles for them last year about how the team were performing. I'm sure if anybody wanted to volunteer to do match reports or team updates they would welcome them with open arms.

Salford Star will still be critical of the club in regards to the stadium because they're dubious of John Wilkinson and Salford City Council's business dealings. That stance probably won't change and the loan for the stadium no doubt compounded the issue. However, as I said, as far as the team and other club departments are concerned, I reckon they'd be receptive to new writers.
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:21 am  
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Now there's a name that should strike fear into every Salford fan. 'A***** *****s'. (Keen not to get myself in trouble) A truly disgraceful journo that is so unbelievably pro Warrington it's untrue. She's never done us any favours in any of her work. Genuine contempt for us. Not at all surprised that she's had something to do with this.



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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:57 am  
LoyalFan wrote:
Are we really that gullible to believe that is what happened ???... The club have messed up... and will blame whoever. It's easy to say that we did everything right when we are all kicking off about it.

How many times have we had the wool pulled over our eyes over the years... yet people would suddenly believe the club when they are passing the buck.

"It wasn't our fault... it was that Angela Powers... She didn't pass on the message to Eddie"

Some will believe anything rather than our own failings.


Let's just wait and see if Sky make an apology first before we try and disprove the explanation that Angela Powers failed to relay the message to Eddie Hemmings. If there is no apology on the show within the next couple of weeks, then and only then, will I believe that someone at the club has screwed up. It will be very interesting to see what happens because if the explanation is a lie then it will have made the situation a whole lot worse, probably resulting in someone having to say bye,bye.
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:14 am  
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Salford Star will still be critical of the club in regards to the stadium because they're dubious of John Wilkinson and Salford City Council's business dealings. That stance probably won't change and the loan for the stadium no doubt compounded the issue. However, as I said, as far as the team and other club departments are concerned, I reckon they'd be receptive to new writers.


Unfortunately from experience the Salford Star will take anything on face value, they did a massive putdown of the regneration in Seedley and langworthy a couple of years back and didn't bother to check the truth, just printed what the people told them, the people then laughed at it all as a big wind up and a pack of lies. Underlying to all this is because Salford City Reds have been able to get money from the council and the SS can not.
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:15 am  
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Let's just wait and see if Sky make an apology first before...


Wait!? But my torch is nearly burned-out and this pitchfork isn't getting any lighter. :(
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:39 am  
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Wait!? But my torch is nearly burned-out and this pitchfork isn't getting any lighter. :(


It really forks you off doesn't it? :DEPRESSED:
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:41 am  
LoyalFan wrote:
Are we really that gullible to believe that is what happened ???... The club have messed up... and will blame whoever. It's easy to say that we did everything right when we are all kicking off about it.

How many times have we had the wool pulled over our eyes over the years... yet people would suddenly believe the club when they are passing the buck.

"It wasn't our fault... it was that Angela Powers... She didn't pass on the message to Eddie"

Some will believe anything rather than our own failings.


Loyal Fan(Are you really one?) why don't you and everyone else understand that somewhere along the line someone has either made a mistake or not put out the full story.

Do you know the full story of what happened? How do you know that what Sky said was the whole truth?The media and it's reporters always get it correct do they?

You for one seem to enjoy running the club down at every opportunity for whatever reason can't you see that some people take a different view than yourself and are not as quick at criticizing people as you are.
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:52 pm  
Original Salford City Red wrote:
Loyal Fan(Are you really one?) why don't you and everyone else understand that somewhere along the line someone has either made a mistake or not put out the full story.

Do you know the full story of what happened? How do you know that what Sky said was the whole truth?The media and it's reporters always get it correct do they?

You for one seem to enjoy running the club down at every opportunity for whatever reason can't you see that some people take a different view than yourself and are not as quick at criticizing people as you are.


You are correct in assuming I don't know what happened... fact is... I don't... but neither does anybody else on here. Some will take as absolute gospel what the club say... some won't. I just say it as I see it... too many others don't. I certainly don't enjoy running the club down... but this is the club that have been building this stadium for over 10 years and fed us all kinds of stories during that time... and many (including myself) have believed every word... so excuse me in thinking that we are owed a little more. Everyone on here loves the club... myself included... but too many can't see the wood for the trees sometimes.
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