Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:53 pm  

jools wrote:

The Doc saw Hull FC coming- 100k is way above the transfer fee for a much more seasoned player than Sneyd with a year left. Certainly Dobson and Chase and possibly Fages in front of him. The Doc has been given a massive payout for a player that would have warmed the bench at most for most of next season. FC have been had even if Sneyd turns into the full article. Chase was England half back, former MOS and a proven match winner. Sneyd could in time match that but hes had half a good season - he could equally just turn into the next Greg Eden.

I agree it is a big gamble but one worth taking from an FC point of view, especially when season pass sales at Hull are dropping very very rapidly. We paid over 100k for Joe Westerman and it is only in this season we are starting to reap some rewards from that s I doubt it will be an instant success but one I can see working more then it doesn't.

I believe the Doc has being had with Chase though, who to my knowledge has only played in one SL play off game. I suppose with the selling of Sneyd though he has got some of that money back.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:57 pm  

major black wrote:

Name your top 5 number 7's currently playing in Superleague and back it up with some stats.
Then come back and tell us we've had our pants down.

Fact is Hull FC have paid £120k for a player that is on peanuts and has 12 months left to run on his contract. Granted he's had a decent half-a-season, but so have the majority of that Castleford team.

Just to put it into context, when Wigan signed Matty Smith from us they paid us £50k.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:03 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

.....Just to put it into context, when Wigan signed Matty Smith from us they paid us £50k.

Yes, but we were a "distressed seller" at that point and that cash probably kept us afloat while we were digging down the back of the sofa to try & retrieve the Myler money!

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:04 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

Fact is Hull FC have paid £120k for a player that is on peanuts and has 12 months left to run on his contract. Granted he's had a decent half-a-season, but so have the majority of that Castleford team.

Just to put it into context, when Wigan signed Matty Smith from us they paid us £50k.

I know what you are saying and agree to some extent. But like yourselves we can afford to pay the 100k+ so it is hardly a big deal from our point of view.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:05 pm  

TheButcher wrote:

Calling people deluded.

Even though a few have pointed out with facts why it wasn't a deluded thing to sell Sneyd. Which you've ignored in favour of responses like the one above. It's fine that you've got your point of view. Believing it and it actually being true are two separate things.

Because most of you are.

When did I say that selling Sneyd was deluded? I said that those of you thinking £100k is a good deal are deluded.

£100k for a cash strapped club would have been terrific business, but for a club with the cash to stock pile it isn't.

Most young players will probably go down the Sneyd route in the end for you anyway.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:09 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

Fact is Hull FC have paid £120k for a player that is on peanuts and has 12 months left to run on his contract. Granted he's had a decent half-a-season, but so have the majority of that Castleford team.

Just to put it into context, when Wigan signed Matty Smith from us they paid us £50k.

Or we could have paid it for England's future scrum half for years to come.

I see somebody's already pointed out the flaw in your Matty Smith argument.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:09 pm  

Is 100k a lot of money for a player who may or may not be a one season wonder? Yes it is. However, we can easily afford it, we are desperate for a half back and whilst he could flop he just just as likely turn us into a top 4 club. So it's a gamble worth taking.

We only need to shift 7 or 8 hundred extra passes next year on the back of this and we're in profit already, and with a guy we can market as a proper scrum half that's not unlikely.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:19 pm  

Disappointing to see him leave, although it was inevitable once he was loaned out that he wouldn't return to Salford.

In terms of the fee it is probably a good deal for burn clubs. As for the future, no one really knows how Sneyd will go although he waited long enough at Salford for the chance to have this current 'half a decent season' so you can't really blame him and his agent for being eager to get a deal sorted.

I think he will go well for Hull, whilst at least for a change we have the potential to bring in players of a similar or higher standard in his place, unlike when we have lost players in the past.

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:20 pm  

*both clubs

Re: Sneyd asks for a move : Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:23 pm  

*1865* wrote:

Because most of you are.

When did I say that selling Sneyd was deluded? I said that those of you thinking £100k is a good deal are deluded.

£100k for a cash strapped club would have been terrific business, but for a club with the cash to stock pile it isn't.

Most young players will probably go down the Sneyd route in the end for you anyway.

Your logic doesn't make sense.

Regardless of how wealthy a Club is, receiving a substantial fee for anyone is good business and not at all deluded. Are you trying to say that because Salford have disposable dosh it would only be a good deal if it was for a great deal more? Do I really need to identify the flaw in that argument too?

If you look around at most SL Clubs you'll find that there's plenty of turnover in their youth. You can't keep all of them after all, just the decent ones. Just look at Wigan, Saints, and Leeds. Teams that have been happy to offload youngsters by the bucketful. If Salford do the same it's somehow a negative though eh?