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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:11 am  
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7.0 URBAN DESIGN FRAMEWORK
7.4.1 The Bowl
The stadium bowl has been designed to maximise
spectator comfort and atmosphere, with sightlines that are
well above average.
20,000 spectators can be accommodated in the
completed stadium, including 5600 standing spectators.
The Main Stand accommodates 4,500 seated spectators
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Looking at the documents on the council planning website it shows plans for both phase 1 and phase 3 (The latter showing a second tier of seating above the standing areas in the horseshoe. What I find confusing is phase 1 will only accommadate 10'100 spectators which is below the minimum 12'000 required for a Superleague license? And what is phase 2? It just doesn't make any sense!! :THINK:
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:48 am  
Phase 1 of the scheme will house 12,000 fans, this is shown in the drawing title of the plans.
Phase 2 it would seem will add another tier to the side stand only this will increase the capacity to 15,000. Phase 3 would then add another tier to the stands behind the sticks at each end resulting in an overall capacity of 20,000.


This is only my take on the scheme so my apologies if im completely wrong, wouldnt be the first time!!
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:29 am  
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Phase 1 of the scheme will house 12,000 fans, this is shown in the drawing title of the plans.
Phase 2 it would seem will add another tier to the side stand only this will increase the capacity to 15,000. Phase 3 would then add another tier to the stands behind the sticks at each end resulting in an overall capacity of 20,000.


This is only my take on the scheme so my apologies if im completely wrong, wouldnt be the first time!!


I know it shows 12,000 on the phase 1 plans but if you do the maths by adding the main stand seating capacity plus the standing capacity it only totals 10,100. Where are they going to get the extra 1900 from?
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:49 am  
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Excellent pictures wing commander Biggles.


I look a couple of times aday but the scale only really srikes you when you see it like that. Though why is there nothing being done on the section nearest the houses?. It just seems that that bit is being left?. Would be good if some technical genius type could overlay what will hopefully be going where? as i'm still unsure.


This is shown on the council planning website!! The section of land nearest the houses is for future development I think. Some of the land will also be needed for another roundabout and the future link road to and from the M60 motorway(WGIS)-(See drawing below)

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Michigan red wrote:
Excellent pictures wing commander Biggles.


I look a couple of times aday but the scale only really srikes you when you see it like that. Though why is there nothing being done on the section nearest the houses?. It just seems that that bit is being left?. Would be good if some technical genius type could overlay what will hopefully be going where? as i'm still unsure.


This is shown on the council planning website!! The section of land nearest the houses is for future development I think. Some of the land will also be needed for another roundabout and the future link road to and from the M60 motorway(WGIS)-(See drawing below)

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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:11 am  
after looking at the photos how about taking fans up and having a look and make it a forever red fund raiser..... :IDEA:
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:14 am  
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I know it shows 12,000 on the phase 1 plans but if you do the maths by adding the main stand seating capacity plus the standing capacity it only totals 10,100. Where are they going to get the extra 1900 from?


I've not looked in detail, but what about the seats for the other side, opposite the main stand?
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:14 am  
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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:18 am  
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I've not looked in detail, but what about the seats for the other side, opposite the main stand?


Maybe phase 1 includes 1900 seats on the side opposite to the main stand. It's just I wouldn't have thought they would have got 5600 standing behind both posts because on the plans it shows terracing only 9 steps high. Unless the two standing corner sections make up the number?

It's confusing because if you look at the above image it doesn't show seats in the lower tier opposite the main stand. Maybe phase 3 includes taking out the seats on the first tier (Phase 1)and making it standing?

Here's an image showing the inside of the stadium.

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Iain wrote:
I've not looked in detail, but what about the seats for the other side, opposite the main stand?


Maybe phase 1 includes 1900 seats on the side opposite to the main stand. It's just I wouldn't have thought they would have got 5600 standing behind both posts because on the plans it shows terracing only 9 steps high. Unless the two standing corner sections make up the number?

It's confusing because if you look at the above image it doesn't show seats in the lower tier opposite the main stand. Maybe phase 3 includes taking out the seats on the first tier (Phase 1)and making it standing?

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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:18 am  
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Excellent pictures wing commander Biggles.


I look a couple of times aday but the scale only really srikes you when you see it like that. Though why is there nothing being done on the section nearest the houses?. It just seems that that bit is being left?. Would be good if some technical genius type could overlay what will hopefully be going where? as i'm still unsure.


Here is a drawing from the planning site showing the second roundabout and the future link road to the M60 motorway that will take up some of the land you mention above.

It shows a new motorway slip road north bound and a new road that will run parallel to the M60 for joining the motorway south bound at the trafford centre junction.When the new roads are built If you are travelling south to the stadium you will come off at the Peel Green junction on to a new road that runs parallel to the M60 and then turn right under the motorway bridge. For the residents of Barton, Cadishead and Irlam this should make travelling in the mornings much easier by alleviating the build up of traffic at Peel Green roundabout.

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Excellent pictures wing commander Biggles.


I look a couple of times aday but the scale only really srikes you when you see it like that. Though why is there nothing being done on the section nearest the houses?. It just seems that that bit is being left?. Would be good if some technical genius type could overlay what will hopefully be going where? as i'm still unsure.


Here is a drawing from the planning site showing the second roundabout and the future link road to the M60 motorway that will take up some of the land you mention above.

It shows a new motorway slip road north bound and a new road that will run parallel to the M60 for joining the motorway south bound at the trafford centre junction.When the new roads are built If you are travelling south to the stadium you will come off at the Peel Green junction on to a new road that runs parallel to the M60 and then turn right under the motorway bridge. For the residents of Barton, Cadishead and Irlam this should make travelling in the mornings much easier by alleviating the build up of traffic at Peel Green roundabout.

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Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:01 pm  
i think that is a perfect stadium for the reds, i always said when watching the reds when playing leigh at the lsv that we'd go well in a stadium like theirs, just one problem that needs to be cleared up, are the seats actually going to be green? Would appreciate if someone could clear this up. Tar
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