Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon May 16, 2011 5:10 pm  

Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:

Why not buy the stadium? The joint venture company could make a profit and maybe still keep the retail units and inherent rents. Sale own the ground and can then use it for concerts etc.... they have a nice clean shiney new stadium to encourage union loving corporate hospitality.

I think the one thing which could go in our favour is that Sale coming onboard may make the 2nd and 3rd phase be built sooner rather than later.

I'd be ok with Sale being there as long as we are safe and the primary tenant. And the stadium was kept by the council as a community stadium.

I cant imagine either Salford or Sale coming up with the millions to buy it. If this was possible why aren't both clubs building new stadiums themselves? I'm sure both clubs financial priorities are about the strength of the teams on the field rather than making huge investments they can't afford. Bare in mind also that the 26m figure is just for the stadium and not the retail and future associated profits. Like I said in an earlier post the stadium cost to the JV is probably viable because they own the land and some of the profit from the future retail would go towards paying off the stadium loan. At the end of the day the council have backed this because its for the community of Salford (and as long as they aren't losing money) I can't imagine they would want to relinquish control. For instance in addition to the sports pitches/facilities I understand that one floor of the main stand will be used as community offices.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Mon May 16, 2011 8:01 pm  

Don't want Sale in there for all the reasons that have been discussed. Michigan Red I don't get your hatred of football and worship of Rugby Union. Football never banned anyone for life who had played Rugby League. What was all that nonsense your were posting on here abit ago saying we shouldn't be selling 5 year season tickets if we didn't have it on record who would be playing at Barton with us?

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue May 17, 2011 12:23 am  

jonny the leyther wrote:

I agree that the stadium needs to be shared to spread the costs but I do not trust Sale Sharks in the slightest bit after what they have done to Stockport County. I work in Stockport and the things I hear are very bad.

I think it would be much better for you if you got one of City or Utds reserves playing there and let Swinton use it on alternate weekends to you in the summer.

If Blackburn Rovers can use the LSV effectively from such a distance could you not get Bolton or Wigan reserves in there?

I'm a RL fan through and through and I really don't want the same happening to you as what's happened to Stockport

Latics play at Robin park arena I think, no need for them to move.

Getting Sale in is a bad move IMO, that is helping the main competition which cannot be good. Let them die elsewhere.

Would be great to get Man United reserves or FC united playing in the stadium.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue May 17, 2011 7:04 am  

Michigan red wrote: Also what would Kennedy do with Edgeley Park? as let's be honest anyone who knows Stockport knows that the area around the ground isn't the best and they won'd get much for it in the way of new builds. Brian Kennedy has said Stockport County can stay and have exclusive use of Edgeley Park and keep some of the C & B to help their revenue streams. See Kennedy's email reply to some disgruntled SCFC supporters on the Sale forum below. http://www.rugbynetwork.net/boards/read ... 532,page=1

Michigan red wrote: Also what would Kennedy do with Edgeley Park? as let's be honest anyone who knows Stockport knows that the area around the ground isn't the best and they won'd get much for it in the way of new builds. Brian Kennedy has said Stockport County can stay and have exclusive use of Edgeley Park and keep some of the C & B to help their revenue streams. See Kennedy's email reply to some disgruntled SCFC supporters on the Sale forum below. http://www.rugbynetwork.net/boards/read ... 532,page=1

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue May 17, 2011 8:49 am  

Why is everyone thinking/predicting that the stadium will be shared by someone else? I'd prefer it to be ours and ours alone. If it's council/Peel-owned then it will be up to them to try and maximise use of it but there's a fine balance in over-using it in my opinion. And whatever happens I don't want any union team using it. They can all go to the wall as far as I'm concerned and, fingers crossed, that will be sooner than later.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue May 17, 2011 10:59 am  

Ordsall Quays Red wrote:

Why is everyone thinking/predicting that the stadium will be shared by someone else? I'd prefer it to be ours and ours alone. If it's council/Peel-owned then it will be up to them to try and maximise use of it but there's a fine balance in over-using it in my opinion. And whatever happens I don't want any union team using it. They can all go to the wall as far as I'm concerned and, fingers crossed, that will be sooner than later.

Because the more usage it gets , the more money it makes , the less rental you pay , the better team you can put out on the pitch

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue May 17, 2011 10:59 am  

Ordsall Quays Red wrote:

Why is everyone thinking/predicting that the stadium will be shared by someone else? I'd prefer it to be ours and ours alone. If it's council/Peel-owned then it will be up to them to try and maximise use of it but there's a fine balance in over-using it in my opinion. And whatever happens I don't want any union team using it. They can all go to the wall as far as I'm concerned and, fingers crossed, that will be sooner than later.

good post

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue May 17, 2011 11:11 am  

Starbug wrote:

Because the more usage it gets , the more money it makes , the less rental you pay , the better team you can put out on the pitch

I was under the belief that we were paying a minimal/barely mentionable rent as it is.

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue May 17, 2011 11:15 am  

Ordsall Quays Red wrote:

I was under the belief that we were paying a minimal/barely mentionable rent as it is.

Compared to what at the minute ?

And do you have a figure for this ' minimal/barely mentionable ' rent ? , not forgetting loss of concession sales ? , loss of some of you pitchside advertising revenues ? , massive increase in the cost of your corporate costs

I hope you are right and I am wrong

Re: New Stadium Site Update Thread!!! : Tue May 17, 2011 11:18 am  

Starbug wrote:

Compared to what at the minute ?

And do you have a figure for this ' minimal/barely mentionable ' rent ? , not forgetting loss of concession sales ? , loss of some of you pitchside advertising revenues ? , massive increase in the cost of your corporate costs

I hope you are right and I am wrong

That's a good point to be honest.
I have no clue what the new rent will be but I'm sure one of the selling points was that it was going to be a "peppercorn" rent, whatever that would be.