Re: Theo Fages : Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:12 pm  

Although,like Locke,Smith arrived during the tenure of Harris,it doesn't necessarily follow that he signed them. The forward-planning may have been the responsibility of Noble Here And There

Although,like Locke,Smith arrived during the tenure of Harris,it doesn't necessarily follow that he signed them. The forward-planning may have been the responsibility of Noble Here And There

Re: Theo Fages : Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:21 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

I understand you might find the assessment of Dobson harsh, but apart from in fits and starts (such as Widnes on Sunday) I haven't been overly impressed with him this season. He certainly hasn't been the same Michael Dobson we saw at Wigan and Hull KR but I appreciate it is his first season in the team, which was obviously disrupted by a lengthy injury. Whilst he is nowhere near the Tim Smith standard of disappointing signings, he has hardly been outstanding either.

I agree there is plenty of hindsight when it comes to Marc Sneyd, at the time we were all far too excited about Rangi Chase arriving to care too much. Saying that, we're not the ones paid as "professionals" to know which players have and which have not got the talent to make it. Daryl Powell seemed under no illusions that Sneyd could take the place of Rangi and he more than did that.

I think my main gripe is we employ these head coaches, who make their own judgement which has ultimately come at the expense of the club. Noble was here for a season, Harris roughly around the same time frame and because of decision they made we've seen the club sign three 28 plus year old half-backs, two of which have now left the club despite costing thousands to sign and in the process we've lost two 21 year old half-backs to clubs higher than us in the league who will go on and have another successful 10 seasons in Super League.

This club has been crying out for a decent coach with the ability of getting much more from the players on a consistent basis. A coach with the respect to get all his players to fully respect the history and heritage of the club and the passion of the fans. If Sheens doesn't step out of the shadows and put his reputation on the line we will need a top quality coach with the right person skills to get this club firing on all cylinders. Unfortunately some that have been here over the past couple of years appear to have been here with no other motivation than the pay cheque and it's shown. It's small margins a stronger mental attitude from some and a few percent more effort can be the difference between success and failure.

Re: Theo Fages : Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:52 pm  

Angelic Cynic wrote: Although,like Locke,Smith arrived during the tenure of Harris,it doesn't necessarily follow that he signed them. The forward-planning may have been the responsibility of Noble Here And There Smith was a Noble signing, he came with our first batch of Super-duper-stars at the Red Devilution.

Angelic Cynic wrote: Although,like Locke,Smith arrived during the tenure of Harris,it doesn't necessarily follow that he signed them. The forward-planning may have been the responsibility of Noble Here And There Smith was a Noble signing, he came with our first batch of Super-duper-stars at the Red Devilution.

Re: Theo Fages : Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:39 pm  

See Theo was at Saints waving his new scarf.

Re: Theo Fages : Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:48 pm  

Yeah, wonder what all the Theo lovers made of that? Amazed at the level of bonhomie. Unlike the other 'mercenaries' we have waved off so eagerly here was 'one of our own' turning his back on the club at a crucial stage of the season, yet he's given a tear-soaked farewell. Bizarre.

Re: Theo Fages : Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:14 am  

Derek Smalls wrote:

Yeah, wonder what all the Theo lovers made of that? Amazed at the level of bonhomie. Unlike the other 'mercenaries' we have waved off so eagerly here was 'one of our own' turning his back on the club at a crucial stage of the season, yet he's given a tear-soaked farewell. Bizarre.

I'm not in the Theo lover camp but I can't blame the lad. There's been zero progress in the past few years and the whole feel of the club just hasn't felt right. Hopefully this is a huge wake up call and a time to learn from past mistakes. Going forward there has to be much more emphasis on improving recruitment, team spirit, mental attitude, consistency and discipline. The future has to be viewed as a steady building process rather than some quick fix route to success.

Personally I think the biggest mistake Koukash has made since he's been at the club was gambling on a rookie coach. Harris may have been OK tactically/technically but he obviously lacked the necessary management skills and experience to pacify and control certain individuals in a challenging environment. An analogy I would use is it's like a young inexperienced builder trying to construct a luxury house with very expensive materials on no foundations. What's going to happen? It's going to collapse isn't it?

Re: Theo Fages : Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:41 am  

theredshed wrote:

Personally I think the biggest mistake Koukash has made since he's been at the club was gambling on a rookie coach. Harris may have been OK tactically/technically but he obviously lacked the necessary management skills and experience to pacify and control certain individuals in a challenging environment.

This ties in with one of my fears, if we offer Watson the position of head coach we are making the same type of as appointment as we made when Harris came. I would be much happier bringing in a strong well regarded coach and making Watson his #2 and Sheens overseeing the lot.

Re: Theo Fages : Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:56 am  

Michigan red wrote:

This ties in with one of my fears, if we offer Watson the position of head coach we are making the same type of as appointment as we made when Harris came. I would be much happier bringing in a strong well regarded coach and making Watson his #2 and Sheens overseeing the lot.

Daryl Powell is a great example. Got a shot at the Leeds job too soon and failed miserably. Dusted himself down and learned his trade in the lower league with Featherstone Rovers for a few years. Got the experience and was given a shot at Castleford where he's been a resounding success.

Re: Theo Fages : Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:35 am  

Derek Smalls wrote:

Yeah, wonder what all the Theo lovers made of that? Amazed at the level of bonhomie. Unlike the other 'mercenaries' we have waved off so eagerly here was 'one of our own' turning his back on the club at a crucial stage of the season, yet he's given a tear-soaked farewell. Bizarre.

This. With bells on. Good riddance.

Re: Theo Fages : Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:48 am  

I'm happy for Theo, I don't agree with the manner in which he went about the whole resignation fiasco, particularly when Paterson, Hansen and Tasi all knew they would be leaving but remained professional. However after 60 games for the club, in which he gave 100% I am willing to forgive.

I'm more p*ssed off at Rangi, who knowing we had just two half-backs at the club, decided to act like a complete b*llend and force the clubs hands to suspend him. All this on the back of one of the worst Salford performances in recent times. Unlike Theo (who was on peanuts) Rangi was by far the highest paid player at the club.