Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sat May 17, 2014 11:22 pm  

Michigan red wrote:

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One thing that did strike me was the call when our player got pole axed, for the ref to judge it was accidental is bewildering as accidental or not it was still high and should have been a penalty to us rather than a Widnes ball.

If you watch the video you will see him put the whistle to his lips but obviously sucked - players all stop and agree it was an `iffy` try as was the 3 yards pass from Brown late on which led to another try.

Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sat May 17, 2014 11:37 pm  

Early Bath wrote:

If you watch the video you will see him put the whistle to his lips but obviously sucked - players all stop and agree it was an `iffy` try as was the 3 yards pass from Brown late on which led to another try.

I think one flaw with the concept of the whole Magic Weekend idea is the referees obvious instruction to go to the screen as often as possible too add the 'tension' (for tension read nonsensical comments on SKY & people in the crowd spotting the bleeding obvious long before the officials dicking about with the technology on screen do). I really can't see (and would love even the biggest die hard Widnes fan to argue the call) how a high tackle that is accidental is not a penalty, the only difference between that and a deliberate one is that as in the Hull game they should be sent off rather than just spoken too.

We as a game do ourselves no favours when calls like that are missed and tight games are ruined by missing things like blatant forward passes.

Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sun May 18, 2014 12:17 am  

as i wigan fan i think you will beat us next thursday.today took too much out of us.dont know what you think but cas look a better side without chase.i don't think he his doing you any good.i have said that wigan are a better balanced team this year without sam,not a better team but better balanced.i have of course been shot down on our board for daring to say such things.

Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sun May 18, 2014 7:22 am  

zakooo wrote:

as i wigan fan i think you will beat us next thursday.today took too much out of us.dont know what you think but cas look a better side without chase.i don't think he his doing you any good.i have said that wigan are a better balanced team this year without sam,not a better team but better balanced.i have of course been shot down on our board for daring to say such things.

I understand what you mean.

What we need is a HB partner that takes charge and makes the sensible calls. Chase's talent is off the cuff RL, he plainly is not an organiser, and yesterday highlighted it on a number of occasions. He made some bad judgement calls at crucial times. If we had a dominant HB partner that would take that responsibility off him, everyone's a winner. Chase gets to play his natural game at the right time without the burden of organising. Until we get an organiser to partner him, we'll have to put up with his calls. When they go right they are match winners, but when they go wrong they are match killers. So I understand where you're coming from.

Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sun May 18, 2014 7:52 am  

Anyone else think our pack made great yards going forward yesterday? I don't think we were kept in our half for one set of six. It was like we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, a lack of confidence and some panic rugby lost it for us - not a lack of effort.

Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sun May 18, 2014 8:17 am  

Im still gutted we lost that game, its a game where the forwards did there job but the outside backs didnt! Chase had a good game yesterday but when you've not won a super league since Bradford, basics need to come into play! Williams & Meli good going foward but defensively are bobbins!

Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sun May 18, 2014 8:34 am  

Early Bath wrote:

If you watch the video you will see him put the whistle to his lips but obviously sucked - players all stop and agree it was an `iffy` try as was the 3 yards pass from Brown late on which led to another try.

Meli scored a try last week, which enabled you to get a draw,with both feet in touch.Bentham apologised for the error,yet the league table looks exactly the same.The standard of refereeing is awful.

Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sun May 18, 2014 9:22 am  

Dissapointing performance yet again. Anyone who says they can see an improvement in our defence are talking through their ar*e I'm afraid. Every time Widnes attacked us on our line they went over, it was embarrassing. This was after losing their scrum half after 60 seconds too. I don't know what they're practising during the week with regards to our sliding defence, but it isn't good enough. I would be happy with progress, but there is non.

In attack we looked better, but only when we played a structured game ie 5 tackles and then a pressured kick with a good chase.

I feel sorry for our forwards. Week after week they put the graft in, they take the ball up well and defend solidly. It is outwide where we're struggling.

I'm also sick of seeing is cough up the ball through stupid unforced errors. Greg Eden done for crossing twice, for f*cks sake, you're suppose to be a professional.

I'm writing this season off already and accept we won't make the play offs. If and that's a major IF Harris can fix the defence, it be to little to late. We just can't keep shipping 30 points a game and expect to win.

Here's what I wrote during the week RE the Widnes game;

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

I cant see past a Widnes win I’m afraid. Big expansive pitch, they’ll exploit our weaknesses around the edges in particular Gleeson and Williams (weak side).

If I can see it, then so can every other Super League coach we come across.

PS - yes the referee was bad, but to blame him is almost as embarrassing as our defence. Don't forget the referee mistake for Meli's try last week that earnt us a draw. I didn't see Vickers frothing at the mouth on twitter at that one.

Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sun May 18, 2014 2:55 pm  

John Gilbert Reds wrote:

PS - yes the referee was bad, but to blame him is almost as embarrassing as our defence. Don't forget the referee mistake for Meli's try last week that earnt us a draw. I didn't see Vickers frothing at the mouth on twitter at that one.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
Last week Meli was in touch.
Yesterday we'd have won with a different ref.
He decided to blow,one way or the other,in nearly every set of six but messed up badly on the big calls throughout the match.
Sorry but talking through my a**e or not we are much better,but we are not winning and that's worrying

Re: Match Report- No idiots : Sun May 18, 2014 3:07 pm  

Referee or not we should have won both games last week and yesterday. Blaming the referee is ridiculous and an attempt to paper of the evident cracks that exist within the current team. Were simply not good enough in defence to be a top 10 team let alone top 8. I don't blame Harris as I didn't blame Noble, I blame individual players who are letting themselves, their team mates and the fans down.