Donnyman expansion discussion threads merged : Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:57 am  

PEREZ SPEAKS......

“The response over here has been pretty big. When we started in Toronto, it’s a huge city, so it took a long time. But now in Toronto, most people know the Wolfpack as the rugby team and you see merchandise there. With Ottawa it was like that from day one, everyone knew the Aces were the rugby team. The fact we did Toronto meant it became more prominent and word travelled faster.”

Mr Perez gave Toronto a name check as above thanking his former club for their trail blazing, opening up Canada to further RL expansion. Ottawa have Frayssinous in place apparently with ten players lined up to sign on to erm.......

A repeat of the successfull TWP journey

If as Perez says Ottawa are now able to follow Argyles trailblazing lead, where exactly does that lead them? I know Perez has been asked and he's pretty much "move along nothing to see" but at some time he needs to be honest about his ambitions. To be fair he says this....

"Perez hopes to head off the criticism that has come Toronto’s way by striving to include Canada-born players from the start of their journey. He said: “I think it’s important that we can actually develop our own players on both sides of the pond, in the UK and Canada".

I wish any real expansion all the luck in the world, but talk is cheap, and I am sure it's now vital for Ottawa not just to dig into Canada RL for players but also the USARL. We must remember at the World cup the USA team contained home grown players and if they can get on a pitch with international teams fielding professionals and survive......Then that is surely where Ottawa must go for players...The USARL and not here?

Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? : Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:42 pm  

When I saw the title, I knew it would be a donnyman post.

If anyone wants to discuss rugby league properly without trolls like this, just come to reddit. That’s where like minded people discuss rugby league these days

Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? : Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:28 pm  

Steph Curry wrote:

When I saw the title, I knew it would be a donnyman post.

If anyone wants to discuss rugby league properly without trolls like this, just come to reddit. That’s where like minded people discuss rugby league these days

Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? : Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:52 am  

Steph Curry wrote:

When I saw the title, I knew it would be a donnyman post.

If anyone wants to discuss rugby league properly without trolls like this, just come to reddit. That’s where like minded people discuss rugby league these days

Then why do you still post here?

Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? : Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:03 am  

Steph Curry wrote:

If anyone wants to discuss rugby league properly without trolls like this, just come to reddit. That’s where like minded people discuss rugby league these days

I bet that's a meeting of great minds.

Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? : Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:47 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

I bet that's a meeting of great minds.

You'll find a meeting of great minds on TRL in the expansion threads where hundreds of posts discuss how the game is to break out of it's homelands and take the sporting world over. Trouble is there's a far much bigger, much richer and very similar game that is sat next door to us wherever we play rugby league and that code has specific policies for making sure they don't contract as a result of our growth.

Toronto suffer from Rugby Union dominating there and it may be no different in Ottawa. How do you manage a grass roots when the grass roots is taken already and there's an established RU infractructure. Argyle simply didn't bother trying and just partied with the Canada Rugby Union people. If you can't beat 'em join em.

As for Ottawa Perez is already planning "Trials" for Canadian players. It was not so long ago Noble was sent out to scour Canada for some home grown talent which must have been what the SL bosses were pushing him for. Now Perez is supposedly going to look into this empty cupboard and seems to be setting himself up to fail just so he can shelve that and deplete the game of players here.

Perez seems to be deliberately ignoring USA players and should tell us why, but no doubt he''ll get his usual free ride. That's not expansion and the one thing the expansionists cannot grasp is if you shift all the players from Leigh to Toronto and relegate Leigh what exactly "expands"??

As for this "Steph Curry" bloke, it's just another thread spoiler in action. They may all be the same person or should I say thing

Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? : Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:57 am  

Then there's the American who nobby said in his own words he keeps on getting better and better and better, so where is he now

Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? : Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:21 am  

snowie wrote:

Then there's the American who nobby said in his own words he keeps on getting better and better and better, so where is he now

I hope Noble got paid enough to retire because he did his CV no good at all in Toronto. It would be typical of him following TWP policy to invent "an example" of how RL player production was on the rise in Canada and just shout that out every time he was challenged.

In year one TWP did have North American players two of these lads as I say were at the World cup. They were sacked for year two. The trials were a sham as reported by people who went to Brighouse. Perez is all hot air as his record shows. Anyway we shall see how this ridiculous episode in the games history (which is where it will eventually be consigned) rolls on.

Wonder if that lad Quin Ngwati who was always rolled out as the proof of "player expansion" (but hardly ever played) is going there? That's not the lad you refer to is it? Lets see if Perez signs him.

Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? : Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:36 am  

Donnyman wrote:

I hope Noble got paid enough to retire because he did his CV no good at all in Toronto. It would be typical of him following TWP policy to invent "an example" of how RL player production was on the rise in Canada and just shout that out every time he was challenged.

In year one TWP did have North American players two of these lads as I say were at the World cup. They were sacked for year two. The trials were a sham as reported by people who went to Brighouse. Perez is all hot air as his record shows. Anyway we shall see how this ridiculous episode in the games history (which is where it will eventually be consigned) rolls on.

Wonder if that lad Quin Ngwati who was always rolled out as the proof of "player expansion" (but hardly ever played) is going there? That's not the lad you refer to is it? Lets see if Perez signs him.

out of interest, what has made you so bitter and full of hate for all things expansion?

Re: What now for Ottawa Aces? : Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:16 am  

Perez's record is pretty good. Built one club from scratch and another next year in foreign lands all in 5 years.