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The promotion and relegation system does not work. Championship clubs cannot make it to Super League against even a weak Super League team with a much higher salary cap.

Major corporate sponsors are not interested in funding a sport which has a tiny geographical profile, in this case along the M62 corridor.

The only way rugby league can become popular and get funds at the level of the NRL at least, is to drop P & R and institute franchising with a truly national and an international perspective.

The franchises should be awarded to clubs which have a 10,000 seater minimum stadium and an active junior competition. The best clubs to award franchises to, from the perspective of TV deals and national and international sponorship are:

Wigan
St Helens
Warrington
Leeds
Bradford
Hull FC
Calder United

London
Newcastle
Sheffield

Catalans
Toulouse

Toronto
Montreal

The competition should be renamed Atlantic Super League.

The Canadian teams will have to be stocked with Antipodean and English players at the beginning (as is now planned). Within ten years they should have a majority Canadian player roster thanks to development of Canadian juniors, as now exists with French players at Catalans, and should also exist with French players at Toulouse. The same methods should be used with new USA team ventures.

Future franchise additions to the initially 14 team competition should come from southern England, Wales, France, and the USA. If there is a sufficient player pool there should be no fear of increasing the number of teams over time up to 20, or even 24. If the number was to be 20 I would be looking at having one more team from Wales (Cardiff), one more from southern England, two more from France, and two more from USA. If the number was to increase to 24 then I would look at 4 more teams from the USA.

The days of parochialism are over. The game is atrophying in poverty under the Nigel Wood "P & R on the M62" administration.

Only a truly national and international franchise system will attract big corporate sponsors and get the lucrative TV deals that are enjoyed by rugby league in Australia, and by other sports in Europe and North America.
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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
The promotion and relegation system does not work. Championship clubs cannot make it to Super League against even a weak Super League team with a much higher salary cap.

Major corporate sponsors are not interested in funding a sport which has a tiny geographical profile, in this case along the M62 corridor.

The only way rugby league can become popular and get funds at the level of the NRL at least, is to drop P & R and institute franchising with a truly national and an international perspective.

The franchises should be awarded to clubs which have a 10,000 seater minimum stadium and an active junior competition. The best clubs to award franchises to, from the perspective of TV deals and national and international sponorship are:

Wigan
St Helens
Warrington
Leeds
Bradford
Hull FC
Calder United

London
Newcastle
Sheffield

Catalans
Toulouse

Toronto
Montreal

The competition should be renamed Atlantic Super League.

The Canadian teams will have to be stocked with Antipodean and English players at the beginning (as is now planned). Within ten years they should have a majority Canadian player roster thanks to development of Canadian juniors, as now exists with French players at Catalans, and should also exist with French players at Toulouse. The same methods should be used with new USA team ventures.

Future franchise additions to the initially 14 team competition should come from southern England, Wales, France, and the USA. If there is a sufficient player pool there should be no fear of increasing the number of teams over time up to 20, or even 24. If the number was to be 20 I would be looking at having one more team from Wales (Cardiff), one more from southern England, two more from France, and two more from USA. If the number was to increase to 24 then I would look at 4 more teams from the USA.

The days of parochialism are over. The game is atrophying in poverty under the Nigel Wood "P & R on the M62" administration.

Only a truly national and international franchise system will attract big corporate sponsors and get the lucrative TV deals that are enjoyed by rugby league in Australia, and by other sports in Europe and North America.


I just don't know where to begin.
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The teams dropped from Super League (Huddersfield, Wakefield, Castleford, Salford, Widnes, Hull KR) should have a place in a revitalised Championship, that could also include another team from London, one from the Midlands, and two more French teams, as well as Leigh and a few of the better existing Championship clubs.


Toulouse and Toronto are showing the way for expansion. The RFL must follow and become a proactive modern business along the lines that i have outlined.
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I just don't know where to begin.


Try beginning at the beginning.
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Bring back franchises! :DANCE:

I'd go for the following...

Subway
McDonald's
Wendy's
Dixy Chicken
Nando's
Spud U Like
KFC

Dunkin Donuts
Starbucks
Taco Bell

YO! Sushi
Hungry Jacks
Red Rooster
Eagle Boys Pizza

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JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
Try beginning at the beginning.


There's just too much twaddle to dissect.

And I can tell you now "Calder United" is a non starter.
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"I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."

An arrogant Wigan fan a few days before we stuffed them 18-4 at the JJB.

Last year's challenge cup finalists featuring a French hooker just extinct in Jeans wonderful world
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John Boudebza and his team mate Kevin Larroyer could play for Toulouse or Montreal under the new franchise system. That would be truly wonderful.
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"I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."

An arrogant Wigan fan a few days before we stuffed them 18-4 at the JJB.

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:
John Boudebza and his team mate Kevin Larroyer could play for Toulouse or Montreal under the new franchise system. That would be truly wonderful.



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