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I've heard some say that when we hit the bad times we all went back to watching Halifax and Huddersfield. Its apparently where most of the fans were poached from. It would explain why our gates dropped at the same time there's swelled back to epic proportions.

I actually think Bradford Bulls did remarkably well for fan attendance given the troubles that besieged the club !
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I've heard some say that when we hit the bad times we all went back to watching Halifax and Huddersfield. Its apparently where most of the fans were poached from. It would explain why our gates dropped at the same time there's swelled back to epic proportions.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bradford probably peaked at 15,259 in 2003. Huddersfield crowds at the time didn't show a significant drop but actually a small rise....

Halifax's crowds dropped that year not because their fans went to Bradford, but because after winning the first game when the fans had bought their season tickets , Halifax collapsed and did not win another game and were relegated. If they had charged off to Bradford then Bulls attendances would have gone further up but they went down 2004.

At that time Bulls were pretty red hot at marketing and IIRC they had a season ticket bus and that went all over targetting anyone interested anywhere. It did quite well in Batley and Dewsbury, The Batley chairman complained bitterly. I remember talking to my dentist about Rugby 20 miles away from Bradford. He had come down from Workington and wanted to watch Superleague and Bulls had the attraction.

If anything SL clubs probably attracted championship fans who wanted to watch the Professional game.
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The Silent H wrote:
Defining fan is very ambiguous and your allusion that Toronto fans are lesser due to what you perceive and heard ''reports'' about is very unfair.

Need I remind you of the fairweather Leigh fans. Averaged 6k in super league, was half that in the Championship last year. Thats FACT not ''reports'' and someone saw this etc.

I hope Leigh do well and do stay up but it really is chalk and cheese in regards to what the potential of Toronto was compared to Leigh.


You are in a time capsule. You are clearly brainwashed with expansion. You are still looking to blame others for Toronto failing.

Yes,the only club that had fairweather fans! All of them! Would never have worked and the Aces will end up down the same route. Unless they create their own League.

Up the Comics..
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You are in a time capsule. You are clearly brainwashed with expansion. You are still looking to blame others for Toronto failing.

Yes,the only club that had fairweather fans! All of them! Would never have worked and the Aces will end up down the same route. Unless they create their own League.

Up the Comics..

Care to offer something constructive and non personal?
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Toronto failing. Would never have worked and the Aces will end up down the same route. Unless they create their own League.



TWP only existed as long as £10 Million a year was being pumped in, money Ottawa Aces don't have. They have no money as no owners showed up at their launch.

Fans are fans, and fans were never the point. Again the point was of TWP, for them to stimulate investment, player development and TV deals these are the three things that did not work

Posters are welcome to show that these things did work.....
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Don't you ever get bored?

How was a club that was around for three years be expected to achieve these things. Some UK clubs fail to do so after how many decades?

The club doesn't even operate anymore yet you bring them up daily, go take the dog for a walk.
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How was a club that was around for three years be expected to achieve these things.

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The expectation came from Eric Perez. I have urged you to research just what he promised the game here. It's all on record, but people ignore it if it doesn't suit them.

Once again he promised SL quality North American Players "Pretty quickly" through converting grid iron players. His plan was to make those trials and conversions into a sports TV show to sell to NATV.

He achieved neither, then four years later Brian McDernott was pressed on where the player development was as it hadn't even been set up and he admitted there was none. He was asked about paying TV deals and again he said they had tried and there was no interest.

Mate, I would not raise these things time and again if other posters didn't raise the issue of "expansion" time and again in which they think removing English clubs from SL and replacing them with Canadian and French clubs is somehow "expansion". It's just not is it??
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Donnyman wrote:
The expectation came from Eric Perez. I have urged you to research just what he promised the game here. It's all on record, but people ignore it if it doesn't suit them.

Once again he promised SL quality North American Players "Pretty quickly" through converting grid iron players. His plan was to make those trials and conversions into a sports TV show to sell to NATV.

He achieved neither, then four years later Brian McDernott was pressed on where the player development was as it hadn't even been set up and he admitted there was none. He was asked about paying TV deals and again he said they had tried and there was no interest.

Mate, I would not raise these things time and again if other posters didn't raise the issue of "expansion" time and again in which they think removing English clubs from SL and replacing them with Canadian and French clubs is somehow "expansion". It's just not is it??


Do you think he doesn't know this already? :lol:

You do know TSH is now laughing because he gotcha. :P
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Do you think he doesn't know this already? :lol:

You do know TSH is now laughing because he gotcha. :P


:( :( :(

In mitigation I posted the facts in the spirit of the Mods requirements that all the name calling is stopped and that posts should be, and are, civil and polite.

The post from the Gentleman in question whom I responded to, didn't breach those new requirements so I thought it only polite to reply :D

The reply I gave centred on something a number of people (not just m'learned friend) can't or don't want to understand, and that is that expansion means an expanded pool of professionals thanks to the North American and French clubs bringing their own through, and an expanded Television income thanks to North American and French clubs getting TV deals to share with us in their own countries adding to the one here.

Let's say Wigan were expelled from Superleague for some reason and Red Star Belgrade replaced them and bought up the Wigan team. This in the eyes of many people on TRL and a couple here would be "Expansion" only because the distance to games and back had been expanded, forgetting that losing Wigan as an SL club and them being replaced by a fledgling overseas club may well seriously diminish Superleague.

And that reply wasn't exclusively for our friend, it was to anyone who misunderstands what expansion really is.

A really good example of expansion here was the advent of Cumbrian clubs in the period after the war........
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The Silent H wrote:
Don't you ever get bored?

How was a club that was around for three years be expected to achieve these things. Some UK clubs fail to do so after how many decades?

The club doesn't even operate anymore yet you bring them up daily, go take the dog for a walk.


you certainly don't :lol:

Care to mention which these clubs are

As for taking the dogs for a walk why not :)
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