Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:11 am  

gutterfax wrote:

Edit.
589,436 seats/spaces really available over all venues over all games according to the published venue capacities. Depending on their own definition of "available" this release can actually be taken either way.

If they had topped the attendance figure from the 2000 RLWC they would have announced it......if they had cracked 200,000 they would have announced it.....all this release has done is cast doubt on the actual number of seats available at the comp in an attempt to create a rush for tickets based on a perception of demand....I doubt it will work!

If they had sold out any of the England Group games, they would have announced it. I suspect that the only 2 games with a chance of selling out at the group stage are the 2 being played in France.
As usual, English RL fans will wait and see before trying to book a QF ticket and then moaning about lack of availability/Price.

As I say, I will be more than happy to eat my words, but to date, very little in the way of positive news is coming from the organisers.

Why is 200k a landmark? It seems a weird one considering that its only about 75K less than 50% which is surely a more obvious landmark.

Also why is the 2000 WC, widely derided as terribly attended a landmark? Im not sure what the publicity gain is from a statement basically saying “ we are slightly better than appalling”

Also ‘available tickets’ quite obviously means tickets which are available for sale. You can buy tickets anywhere in the grounds for group games, they don’t seem to be opening stands as and when, and the percentage would be a hell of a lot higher if they were only including the tiers/stands currently for the big games because there could only be a high percentage of tickets sold for stands open (even if we had only sold 20k tickets for the final, if that’s 20k of 25k seater stand that’s 80%)

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:30 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Why is 200k a landmark? It seems a weird one considering that its only about 75K less than 50% which is surely a more obvious landmark.

200k would be a statement of success with 100 days to go.....as it is, all we've had is cryptic spin with no substance at all.

SmokeyTA wrote:

Also why is the 2000 WC, widely derided as terribly attended a landmark? Im not sure what the publicity gain is from a statement basically saying “ we are slightly better than appalling”

With 100 days to go, an announcement on surpassing the previous RLWC held in the UK would a statement of success. All we've had to date is spin....given the penchant for RL fans to think the worse, I suspect ticket sales will not increase as a result of said spin!

SmokeyTA wrote:

Also ‘available tickets’ quite obviously means tickets which are available for sale. You can buy tickets anywhere in the grounds for group games, they don’t seem to be opening stands as and when, and the percentage would be a hell of a lot higher if they were only including the tiers/stands currently for the big games because there could only be a high percentage of tickets sold for stands open (even if we had only sold 20k tickets for the final, if that’s 20k of 25k seater stand that’s 80%)

If you don't expect to fill it then don't play there! Cardiff and Wembley are massive mistakes IMHO......especially Wembley. I would have made it impossible to even be in with a chance of a ticket to the Final if you didn't have a ticket to the Semi-finals....Elland Road (37k) and the City of Manchester (47k).....60% of tickets to the final only available to people who have tickets to the semi's.....after a deadline, unsold seats released to ticket holders from the Quarters.

As it is, of the 80,000 regular SL and Championship fans, who attend games week in week out, a hard core 30% have bought maybe 4 or 5 tickets each so far.

As for the group games featuring less sellable teams, there's where you should of had your double headers.

As it is, the BBC will broadcast the opening ceremony with the top tier of Cardiff empty......the semis with 1/3 of the stadium empty and to any occasional viewer of sports who sees this, it will appear like nobody cares.

Marketing 101.....Create a product then create a demand for that product by making it hard to get......other than the RLWC Final, I suspect anyone will be able to pay at the gate/on the day for the other games.

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:41 pm  

I think there are still huge portions of the to public yet to buy. I suspect the rush will occur after the cc and then again after the cf. If the NFL are not pushing tickets at these two games. Then sack the marketers.

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:54 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I think there are still huge portions of the to public yet to buy.

I don't. The Venues were named and the times announced......that's when an event will shift the majority of its tickets. Whether it's a sporting event, or a concert, the initial demand points to the overall attendance in the long term.

bewareshadows wrote:

I suspect the rush will occur after the cc and then again after the cf. If the NFL are not pushing tickets at these two games. Then sack the marketers.

The CC and the GF sees the up to half of the crowd as neutrals....with maybe even more at Wembley......if the RFL are hanging their hat on your "rush for tickets" after these two finals, then we really are in trouble.

I fully expect to see RLWC 2013 Tickets being offered FREE as incentives to buy 2014 Season Tickets/Passes before the end of September this year.....

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:01 am  

Got my tickets for the PNG games at Ms3 craven park

Fancy either England vs Fiji at the KC or Ireland vs Australia in limerick as well

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:41 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

I don't. The Venues were named and the times announced......that's when an event will shift the majority of its tickets. Whether it's a sporting event, or a concert, the initial demand points to the overall attendance in the long term.
The CC and the GF sees the up to half of the crowd as neutrals....with maybe even more at Wembley......if the RFL are hanging their hat on your "rush for tickets" after these two finals, then we really are in trouble.

I fully expect to see RLWC 2013 Tickets being offered FREE as incentives to buy 2014 Season Tickets/Passes before the end of September this year.....

Just reading the post i do sometimes get the feeling you hope it will fail. We need to stop comparing it events we can't compete with yet.

We need to bulild year on year making it bigger and better. If we get more ticket sales and a higher profit than the last WC then that is a success.

I'm sure even if we sell all tickets available the some fans will still moan that not all the stands were open for Cook Islands V USA.

Didn't the all conquering 2012 Olympics draft in the army to fill the empty seats last year?

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:13 am  

The only people who appear to want the event to fail are gutterfax and rlfans.com for giving him unlimited voice.No wonder fewer and fewer people come to this anti league site.

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:41 am  

Bull Mania wrote:

Didn't the all conquering 2012 Olympics draft in the army to fill the empty seats last year?

Yes but that wasn't due to lack of demand; it was due to lack of supply. The seats filled by the army were set aside for the international press and other representatives who did not take them up. They were withheld from the paying public who generally expressed their displeasure at being denied tickets when there were so many available seats.

I think we can all be 100% certain that if RL is holding back ticket availability it isn't to facilitate international media and other representatives. I would imagine it is because those tasked with issuing tickets are trying to ensure certain areas in stadia look full before releasing further tickets.

I think if 40% of tickets have been sold so far then that is disappointing. I would have expected at this stae of the year for around 60% to have been sold.

I have yet to buy mine so that is half a dozen more tickets yet to be purchased at various locations!

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:27 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Yes but that wasn't due to lack of demand; it was due to lack of supply. The seats filled by the army were set aside for the international press and other representatives who did not take them up. They were withheld from the paying public who generally expressed their displeasure at being denied tickets when there were so many available seats.

I think we can all be 100% certain that if RL is holding back ticket availability it isn't to facilitate international media and other representatives. I would imagine it is because those tasked with issuing tickets are trying to ensure certain areas in stadia look full before releasing further tickets.

I think if 40% of tickets have been sold so far then that is disappointing. I would have expected at this stae of the year for around 60% to have been sold.

I have yet to buy mine so that is half a dozen more tickets yet to be purchased at various locations!

40 % is far from disappointing if you compare with recent World Cup sales at the same stage in 2008, 2000, and 1995!!!

Re: World Cup Ticket Sales : Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:01 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

I don't. The Venues were named and the times announced......that's when an event will shift the majority of its tickets. Whether it's a sporting event, or a concert, the initial demand points to the overall attendance in the long term.
The CC and the GF sees the up to half of the crowd as neutrals....with maybe even more at Wembley......if the RFL are hanging their hat on your "rush for tickets" after these two finals, then we really are in trouble.

I fully expect to see RLWC 2013 Tickets being offered FREE as incentives to buy 2014 Season Tickets/Passes before the end of September this year.....

I don't think I know anyone who has bought a ticket yet. I do however know plenty of people, myself included who will be starting to buy tickets for the big games soon and group games closer to the time. Surely a good sign? Big events like the 6 Nations sell out in a flash because for a great majority of people it is the one live game they attend a year.

This year I have clocked up 21 rounds of SL plus a few Championship games, R4/5/QF of the cup and three pre season games so there isn't the same sense of urgency etc that I might have if I hadn't been to a game all year, nor do I have the money to start buying tickets way in advance. Plenty of people in the same boat!