Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:03 am  

Code13 wrote:

Bull plop they are

They think they are, but they don't actually say anything constructive, or make valid suggestions to cause and correction - they just whine and moan

So if you're worried about attendances, you're not an RL fan?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:18 am  

JonB95 wrote:

I'm sure I heard on TV the Bradford announcer said 10,724? Maybe I misheard.

I thought I heard that too.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:26 am  

William Eve wrote:

Round 3

Leeds V Salford in 2013 = 12,558
Leeds V Salford in 2012 = 15,081
Percentage drop in attendance = -16.73%

St Helens V Hull in 2013 = 11,257
St Helens V Hull in 2012 = 14,875
Percentage drop in attendance = -24.32%

Warrington V Catalan in 2013 = 10,015
Warrington V Catalan in 2012 = 10,570
Percentage drop in attendance = -5.25%

Huddersfield V Wigan in 2013 = 8,023
Huddersfield V Wigan in 2012 = 10,123
Percentage drop in attendance = -20.74%

Bradford V Castleford in 2013 = 7,724
Bradford V Castleford in 2012 = 10,906
Percentage drop in attendance = -29.18%

As you've done for every round, you've utterly ignored context. And, almost certainly, spent more time on this than actually watching any rugby.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:46 am  

Urmston Wire wrote:

William Eve wrote:

Round 3

Leeds V Salford in 2013 = 12,558
Leeds V Salford in 2012 = 15,081
Percentage drop in attendance = -16.73%

St Helens V Hull in 2013 = 11,257
St Helens V Hull in 2012 = 14,875
Percentage drop in attendance = -24.32%

Warrington V Catalan in 2013 = 10,015
Warrington V Catalan in 2012 = 10,570
Percentage drop in attendance = -5.25%

Huddersfield V Wigan in 2013 = 8,023
Huddersfield V Wigan in 2012 = 10,123
Percentage drop in attendance = -20.74%

Bradford V Castleford in 2013 = 7,724
Bradford V Castleford in 2012 = 10,906
Percentage drop in attendance = -29.18%

As you've done for every round, you've utterly ignored context. And, almost certainly, spent more time on this than actually watching any rugby.

He's just printed the numbers. You can add your own thoughts about context. I'm sure if the numbers were the other way round you wouldn't be complaining about context.
Readers aren't morons, we know that games at different times of year etc will show variation. I stand by my guess, and that's all it is, that all in, we'll see about a 10% drop this year. That will be an awful result, but it might not happen. The only good thing about a big drop is that it might just get rid of Wood. Sadly, I think we'd need to be down to single figures before that shameless lot admit they're anything other than leading candidates for governing body of the year.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:55 pm  

I hope to see a weekly round up of attendances and comparisons to previous season though rd by rd rather than opponents would be better.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:56 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

I hope to see a weekly round up of attendances and comparisons to previous season though rd by rd rather than opponents would be better.

I originally provided comparative weekly round attendance stats but many complained claiming it was a flawed exercise because it wasn't a comparison between the same fixtures. *Please note that the weekly round attendance comparisons would have received no criticism had they instead conveyed a positive message and evidence of increased attendances.

Round 1 attendances in SL this year = 64387
Round 1 attendances in SL last year = 73720
% fall in attendances = -12.66%

Round 2 attendances in SL this year = 69809
Round 2 attendances in SL last year = 74948
% fall in attendances = -6.86%

Round 3 attendances in SL this year yet to be determined but they'll also more than likely produce another weekly round % fall compared to last year.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:48 pm  

William Eve wrote:

JB Down Under wrote:

I hope to see a weekly round up of attendances and comparisons to previous season though rd by rd rather than opponents would be better.

I originally provided comparative weekly round attendance stats but many complained claiming it was a flawed exercise because it wasn't a comparison between the same fixtures. *Please note that the weekly round attendance comparisons would have received no criticism had they instead conveyed a positive message and evidence of increased attendances.

Round 1 attendances in SL this year = 64387
Round 1 attendances in SL last year = 73720
% fall in attendances = -12.66%

Round 2 attendances in SL this year = 69809
Round 2 attendances in SL last year = 74948
% fall in attendances = -6.86%

Round 3 attendances in SL this year yet to be determined but they'll also more than likely produce another weekly round % fall compared to last year.

You terrible man. Don't you know that posting anything showing a fall in attendances without a full explanation of possible mitigating factors is simply anti-RL pessimism! Get a grip. Or better still, get some advice from Nigel Wood on the best way to dress up these figures. If we start to lose faith in our leader where would that leave us? Before we know it we'll need to find someone else, and with only a six figure salary on offer, where, in this economic boom, could we possibly find a man or woman with so much talent?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:41 pm  

Those stats actually have some sort of point to them though

But like all statistics they still need context
You know like when on the news they say "this months retail figures are down but the high street says the bad weather is to blame"

Who knew weather could make people stay indoors

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:47 pm  

London attendance 1,886 - have fun, William

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:15 pm  

SL Round 3 attendances - comparison to same fixtures last year

Leeds V Salford in 2013 = 12,558
Leeds V Salford in 2012 = 15,081
Percentage drop in attendance = -16.73%

St Helens V Hull in 2013 = 11,257
St Helens V Hull in 2012 = 14,875
Percentage drop in attendance = -24.32%

Warrington V Catalan in 2013 = 10,015
Warrington V Catalan in 2012 = 10,570
Percentage drop in attendance = -5.25%

Huddersfield V Wigan in 2013 = 8,023
Huddersfield V Wigan in 2012 = 10,123
Percentage drop in attendance = -20.74%

Bradford V Castleford in 2013 = 7,724
Bradford V Castleford in 2012 = 10,906
Percentage drop in attendance = -29.18%

Hull KR V Widnes in 2013 = 7,247
Hull KR V Widnes in 2012 = 7,423
Percentage drop in attendance = -2.37%

London V Wakefield in 2013 = 1,887
London V Wakefield in 2012 = 2,268
Percentage drop in attendance = -16.80%

Total Attendance in SL Round 3 = 58,711
Total Attendance same fixtures last year = 71,246
Percentage drop in attendance = -17.59%

Every SL fixture in Round 3 this year has shown a decrease in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixtures last year.

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Out of 21 SL fixtures played thus far in 2013, 6 out of 21 have shown an increase in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixture last year. 15 fixtures have shown a decrease in attendance compared to the corresponding SL fixture last year.

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Comparative attendances by SL Round

Round 1 Attendance in SL 2013 = 64,387
Round 1 Attendance in SL 2012 = 73,720
Percentage drop in attendance = -12.66%

Round 2 Attendance in SL 2013 = 69,809
Round 2 Attendance in SL 2012 = 74,948
Percentage drop in attendance = -6.86%

Round 3 Attendance in SL 2013 = 58,711
Round 3 Attendance in SL 2012 = 63,612
Percentage drop in attendance = -7.70%