: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:53 am  

roughyedspud wrote:

steve menzies can't defend either.....and he's in a postiton where he's expected too..

heres some advice.

a 5/8th involves a very heavy defensive requirement. when lockyer and inglis moved there they struggled with the additional defence.

halfbacks are generally hidden in defence and dont make many tackles at all.

mcguire as a 6 wouldnt get a nrl job as his defence isnt good enough
he wouldnt get a gig at 7 as he doesnt play there in SL.

now sean long, had he come over he certainly couldve got a job here at 7
indeed leon pryce might also be a good option for someone like the melbourne storm at 6.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:01 am  

dally messenger wrote:

heres some advice.

a 5/8th involves a very heavy defensive requirement. when lockyer and inglis moved there they struggled with the additional defence.

halfbacks are generally hidden in defence and dont make many tackles at all.

mcguire as a 6 wouldnt get a nrl job as his defence isnt good enough
he wouldnt get a gig at 7 as he doesnt play there in SL.

now sean long, had he come over he certainly couldve got a job here at 7
indeed leon pryce might also be a good option for someone like the melbourne storm at 6.

Leon Pryce would fit in perfectly with the NRL, judging by the things the players get up to off the field

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:08 am  

When both players were in the same competition McGuire's tackle completion rate was better than Ellis' and he (McGuire) missed fewer tackles.

Those that hold the Australian competition in high esteem probably didn't expect Ellis to achieve the standard he has, just as they're saying the same thing about McGuire.

I've no doubts McGuire could adapt to the Aussie game as well as Ellis has. In fact, I've no doubts that Pryce could either. The problem isn't McGuire or Pryce. Its' the lack of quality behind them. Same in most other positions.

I watch Leeds regularly. McGuire's "poor" defence and lack of creativity is a fallacy advanced by ill informed opposition fans.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:45 am  

christopher wrote:

Leon Pryce would fit in perfectly with the NRL, judging by the things the players get up to off the field

seriously id love to see pryce at the storm at 6.

they would improve his game 100%.

they take dud players and make them good.

with someone who has skills like pryce, it would be v.interesting how good they could make him

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:30 pm  

dally messenger wrote:

he was playing really well at parra.

That is sarcastic surely - he was a dud in the NRL the fact he could get a game every week says much about the standard of the halves in the NRL and when Greg Bird gets a gig in SOO at 6 you know you really are struggling.

But then what options have they got at Parramatta - Brett Finch!!!

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:34 pm  

dally messenger wrote:

yes every person that knows about the nrl on this thread has said he couldnt handle the defence at 6 in the nrl.

Come on don't avoid the question come on shows us the 6's in the NRL making 30 tackles a game - they don't exist - Lockyear's average is 17 and he is the highest - come back when you can prove your point - this is the third time I have asked.

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:57 pm  

Eccleshill Rhino wrote:

Come on don't avoid the question come on shows us the 6's in the NRL making 30 tackles a game - they don't exist - Lockyear's average is 17 and he is the highest - come back when you can prove your point - this is the third time I have asked.

what question.

ive been too busy laughing at all your opinions on the nrl.

have you given up making fun of hindys tackling

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:58 pm  

Eccleshill Rhino wrote:

That is sarcastic surely - he was a dud in the NRL the fact he could get a game every week says much about the standard of the halves in the NRL and when Greg Bird gets a gig in SOO at 6 you know you really are struggling.

But then what options have they got at Parramatta - Brett Finch!!!

you are thick

tim smith was a really good player at parra whose form was overshadowed by drinking problems

finch has played origin and not only that, kicked the winning field goal.

finch is also a good half back.

please, stop it, your killing me.

my sides are aching from all this laughter

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:00 pm  

dally messenger wrote:

ER, have a guess where nathan hindmarsh ranks in terms of total tackles made this season?




and guess how many tackles he has averaged per game?

Guess how many ineffective/missed tackles he makes - in weeks 1 and 2 he has a 13% average for missed tackles!!!

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:03 pm  

dally messenger wrote:

what question.

ive been too busy laughing at all your opinions on the nrl.

have you given up making fun of hindys tackling

Can't read either - let's make it easy - just show us a half back that has completed 30 tackles in a game on a regular basis as you keep claiming

I'll give you a help in looking in weeks 1 to 3 this season you will not find one so you will need to go back a bit further!!

Keep on proving what a fool you are - I am not the only one laughing!!!