: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:57 pm  

The big problem will be if they finish in the bottom 2

That will really p155 some fans off

And at the moment you would have to say there is a real chance they will

Also it would seem they have upset the clubs in France if they didn't allow them to enter the Lord Derby cup

Bad Idea

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:26 pm  

Hello forum , been a while since my last posting vis a vis toulouse, let me inform you all on whats going on this side of the channel.

Gilles dumas their coach has not a great coaching record, highly unliked by most of the players that have played under him (especially in the french side) he was a cheap option and his assistant is julien gerin, a player from st gaudens that has played a few matches for the french side but by no means is a good visionary product, the choice has been ridiculed in many circles and as they are two good friends i feel his imput will be some what silenced, A qualified cone pikeruppera is all he`ll be there.

They had some quality french players unavailable because of work commitments, so they should be a lot better at home, the players that work were offered paltry fulltime contracts and laughed at the amount being offered and kept their jobs. But on the whole the squad is weak , inexperienced and typical of any french rugby league side, some good frenchies,some good imports and lots of question marks on the rest , if the australians get injured it could be a very long year indeed.

They have one player who has never even played before , he`s a handballer , a big unit but their hoping he can pass with two hands.

Now i would love to be able to say , yes they will get a lot better, yes they will dispute a final but the reality in france is that the resources aren`t there, the catalans are ok but there are far to many australians there, in this weeks team there are 7 aussies in it, carlaw and ryles are out but would normally be in so that would make 9. I can tell you that the french catalan supportes are already seriously bagging, walters, perry and bell,

Affaire a suivre.

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:37 pm  

queenslander wrote:

Hello forum , been a while since my last posting vis a vis toulouse, let me inform you all on whats going on this side of the channel.

Gilles dumas their coach has not a great coaching record, highly unliked by most of the players that have played under him (especially in the french side) he was a cheap option and his assistant is julien gerin, a player from st gaudens that has played a few matches for the french side but by no means is a good visionary product, the choice has been ridiculed in many circles and as they are two good friends i feel his imput will be some what silenced, A qualified cone pikeruppera is all he`ll be there.

They had some quality french players unavailable because of work commitments, so they should be a lot better at home, the players that work were offered paltry fulltime contracts and laughed at the amount being offered and kept their jobs. But on the whole the squad is weak , inexperienced and typical of any french rugby league side, some good frenchies,some good imports and lots of question marks on the rest , if the australians get injured it could be a very long year indeed.

They have one player who has never even played before , he`s a handballer , a big unit but their hoping he can pass with two hands.

Now i would love to be able to say , yes they will get a lot better, yes they will dispute a final but the reality in france is that the resources aren`t there, the catalans are ok but there are far to many australians there, in this weeks team there are 7 aussies in it, carlaw and ryles are out but would normally be in so that would make 9. I can tell you that the french catalan supportes are already seriously bagging, walters, perry and bell,

Affaire a suivre.

All of this confirming the fears that no real thought has been put into the decisions made by the RFL.

: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:39 pm  

queenslander wrote:

... the catalans are ok but there are far to many australians there, in this weeks team there are 7 aussies in it, carlaw and ryles are out but would normally be in so that would make 9. I can tell you that the french catalan supportes are already seriously bagging, walters, perry and bell,

Affaire a suivre.

Interessant ca, d'apres ce que j'ai lu les fans Francais etaient contemps avec le choix de Walters, Bell, Perry et - grande surprise - Bird. Je croyais que ce n'etais que le contingent sang-et-or(.net) qui n'etais pas contemp.

Avec la possibilite d'utiliser des Juniors Catalans et UTC le TO devrais etre pas si mal, et le choix d'entraineur ne peut pas etre aussi mauvais que le choix pour l'equipe nationalle.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:49 am  

Thought Richard Lewis would have been at the game.After all, it was a bit of an occassion with it being the first championship game of the season live on SKY tv and Toulouse making their debut in the British competition.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:31 am  

queenslander wrote:

Hello forum , been a while since my last posting vis a vis toulouse, let me inform you all on whats going on this side of the channel.

Gilles dumas their coach has not a great coaching record, highly unliked by most of the players that have played under him (especially in the french side) he was a cheap option and his assistant is julien gerin, a player from st gaudens that has played a few matches for the french side but by no means is a good visionary product, the choice has been ridiculed in many circles and as they are two good friends i feel his imput will be some what silenced, A qualified cone pikeruppera is all he`ll be there.

They had some quality french players unavailable because of work commitments, so they should be a lot better at home, the players that work were offered paltry fulltime contracts and laughed at the amount being offered and kept their jobs. But on the whole the squad is weak , inexperienced and typical of any french rugby league side, some good frenchies,some good imports and lots of question marks on the rest , if the australians get injured it could be a very long year indeed.

They have one player who has never even played before , he`s a handballer , a big unit but their hoping he can pass with two hands.

Now i would love to be able to say , yes they will get a lot better, yes they will dispute a final but the reality in france is that the resources aren`t there, the catalans are ok but there are far to many australians there, in this weeks team there are 7 aussies in it, carlaw and ryles are out but would normally be in so that would make 9. I can tell you that the french catalan supportes are already seriously bagging, walters, perry and bell,

Affaire a suivre.

And in what way is this different to other RL sides generally?

To take any journey you have to take the first step.

I don't expect Toulouse to be any great shakes initially but over time.

It's generally called training/apprenticeship where you learn the skills required and develop.

The trouble is now we have a WANT IT NOW mentallity in all aspects of life, not just RL and as a nation we seem to be getting more impatient.

Give them time, 1 match dosn't prove anything except they lost.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:54 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

ill repeat what i said before that was strangely deleted, i would guess by someone being a little overzealous yesterday,

i have seen leeds beat Saint Helens, and Wigan by 70 points, i have seen Bradford beat Hull by 70 points in the play offs, and Salford by 60 points, this wasnt proclaimed as the death of RL in these areas, and it wasnt anything more than a poor result, thats all this is for Toulouse,

Toulouse will take a few weeks to adjust to championship rugby, but they will adjust, they will take at least a year to figure out a process which works for them away from home but they will find it, and they do have talent, and some players who have already proved themselves to have sufficient quality at that level

if at the end of the year they havent are still losing every game in a similar manner then its something to worry about, but while it is a one off result, away to the team which most likely will win the league, it isnt,

and im pretty sure i saw leeds put 70 points on wakefield in 2005, im not sure certain people argued that as proof of anything,

Forgetting to mention Leeds being hammered by Wigan and Offiah in particular or don't you go back that far.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:20 pm  

Toulouse have recruited poorly.

They should have found a couple more quality French forwards with SL experience, such as Adel Fellous.

Of the forwards only Griffi, Anselme and Gay are up to the required standard.

They also need a top class Aussie or Kiwi playmaker.

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:30 pm  

Alice's Phallus wrote:

They also need a top class Aussie or Kiwi playmaker.

What? Surely you mean they need The Sublime Maxime Greseque!

: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:03 pm  

Barnacle Bill wrote:

What? Surely you mean they need The Sublime Maxime Greseque!

Big Fish, Small Pond.... he wouldnt sign.