Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:24 am  

gutterfax wrote:

go to the tubee site and type in

"The Rugby League Experience Tommy Raudonikis RLWC 2013 Tour Host "


...and then pray this lot haven't bought 10,000 tickets on a sale or return basis

Cut Tommy some slack mate.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:08 am  

gutterfax wrote:

go to the tubee site and type in

"The Rugby League Experience Tommy Raudonikis RLWC 2013 Tour Host "


...and then pray this lot haven't bought 10,000 tickets on a sale or return basis

If you fancy looking for the Loch Ness monster in the Lake District, sounds like a good trip to me.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:31 am  

So having ignored a good news story about ticket sales, you have now spent two pages speculating on a made up situation where they have been sold on a sale or return basis.

Pretty much par for the course.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:58 am  

SmokeyTA wrote: So having ignored a good news story about ticket sales, you have now spent two pages speculating on a made up situation where they have been sold on a sale or return basis. Pretty much par for the course. Never said they were, I don't know, but forgive me for not always taking things spewed by the RFL at face value before I decide whether or not its good news. If this is a case where we can take it at face value, great. Do you know if the sales so far include sales to travel firms, etc.? Or is that totally irrelevant to you? (because if Nigel says its good it must be good) After all, they've picked him to be the first image you see on the RLWC site: http://www.rlwc2013.com/world_cup Genius.

SmokeyTA wrote: So having ignored a good news story about ticket sales, you have now spent two pages speculating on a made up situation where they have been sold on a sale or return basis. Pretty much par for the course. Never said they were, I don't know, but forgive me for not always taking things spewed by the RFL at face value before I decide whether or not its good news. If this is a case where we can take it at face value, great. Do you know if the sales so far include sales to travel firms, etc.? Or is that totally irrelevant to you? (because if Nigel says its good it must be good) After all, they've picked him to be the first image you see on the RLWC site: http://www.rlwc2013.com/world_cup Genius.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:25 am  

RLBandit wrote: Never said they were, I don't know, but forgive me for not always taking things spewed by the RFL at face value before I decide whether or not its good news. Yet you take Mr Eve's word as gospel. Wierd. If this is a case where we can take it at face value, great. Do you know if the sales so far include sales to travel firms, etc.? Or is that totally irrelevant to you? (because if Nigel says its good it must be good) After all, they've picked him to be the first image you see on the RLWC site: http://www.rlwc2013.com/world_cup Genius. Its irrelevant because i couldnt care how they are sold. If by travel companies, corporates, whatever its of no consequence. Tickets sold are sold, thats what we are setting out to do sell tickets. What im not going to do is invent a problem in my head, pretend it is real even though i have no real evidence for it at all other than my imagination then complain about it. Ill leave that to you. And if you let your creepy obsession with Nigel Wood drop for a little while you would see there is something else in that image.

RLBandit wrote: Never said they were, I don't know, but forgive me for not always taking things spewed by the RFL at face value before I decide whether or not its good news. Yet you take Mr Eve's word as gospel. Wierd. If this is a case where we can take it at face value, great. Do you know if the sales so far include sales to travel firms, etc.? Or is that totally irrelevant to you? (because if Nigel says its good it must be good) After all, they've picked him to be the first image you see on the RLWC site: http://www.rlwc2013.com/world_cup Genius. Its irrelevant because i couldnt care how they are sold. If by travel companies, corporates, whatever its of no consequence. Tickets sold are sold, thats what we are setting out to do sell tickets. What im not going to do is invent a problem in my head, pretend it is real even though i have no real evidence for it at all other than my imagination then complain about it. Ill leave that to you. And if you let your creepy obsession with Nigel Wood drop for a little while you would see there is something else in that image.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:26 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

er, basically, they did, near as dammit

Nearly 10K for a home game against Wigan... wow.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

:lol: Before the game, it was pisssing it down in a howling gale! This took PLENTY off the local walk-up gate. Would've been well over 10K on a pleasant day.

The Bulls home attendance for the Wigan game was over 23% down on last year. Given that the Bulls home attendances this season have been down by over 33% (v Salford)... down by over 23% (v Hull KR)... down by over 27% (v Saints)... and down by over 29% (v Castleford)... then may I ask if it was pisssing it down in a howling gale at all those other Bulls home games too?

Or are you just talking bollox as per usual?

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:48 pm  

jimlav wrote:

To figure out the level of impact this has you can just look at london or catalans away games. they never bring away fans, so any fall is all down to the home side. The fall in attendances at some clubs are far larger than the amount of away fans that some clubs bring!

Good call.

So here's the data.

SL home attendances for games against London are 12.71% down on the same fixtures last year. SL home attendances for games against Catalan are 8.49% down on last year.

London away game attendances in 2013 compared to same fixtures last year
v Hudds... 5273... 6019
v Wigan... 11590...12608
v Salford... 2333... 5250
v Castleford... 4751... 5149
v Warrington... 9681... 11118
v Leeds... 12855... 13109
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TOTAL... 46483... 53253... -12.71%
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Catalan away game attendances in 2013 compared to same fixtures last year
v Hull KR... 7864... 7142
v Warrington... 10015... 10570
v Castleford... 5205... 5005
v Wigan... 12149... 14464
v London... 1136... 1829
v Hull... 10065... 10765
v Saints... 11111... 13108
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TOTAL... 57545... 62883... -8.49%
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Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:51 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Nearly 10K for a home game against Wigan... wow.

The Bulls home attendance for the Wigan game was over 23% down on last year. Given that the Bulls home attendances this season have been down by over 33% (v Salford)... down by over 23% (v Hull KR)... down by over 27% (v Saints)... and down by over 29% (v Castleford)... then may I ask if it was pisssing it down in a howling gale at all those other Bulls home games too?

Or are you just talking bollox as per usual?

IF you could pull yourself away from your excel spreadsheets and look out of the window once in a while, maybe take a trip outside, you would have realised that yes, the weather over the past 3 months has been particularly bad.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:25 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Good call.

So here's the data.

SL home attendances for games against London are 12.71% down on the same fixtures last year. SL home attendances for games against Catalan are 8.49% down on last year.

London away game attendances in 2013 compared to same fixtures last year
v Hudds... 5273... 6019
v Wigan... 11590...12608
v Salford... 2333... 5250
v Castleford... 4751... 5149
v Warrington... 9681... 11118
v Leeds... 12855... 13109
----------------------------------------------
TOTAL... 46483... 53253... -12.71%
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Catalan away game attendances in 2013 compared to same fixtures last year
v Hull KR... 7864... 7142
v Warrington... 10015... 10570
v Castleford... 5205... 5005
v Wigan... 12149... 14464
v London... 1136... 1829
v Hull... 10065... 10765
v Saints... 11111... 13108
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TOTAL... 57545... 62883... -8.49%
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Don't suppose you could show stats back to 2009 like Him did?
Just that his stats showed support for the Leeds-London game going up-down-up-down.

Re: Opening SL weekend sees attendances tumbling by 12.66% : Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:29 pm  

William Eve wrote:

Good call.

So here's the data.

SL home attendances for games against London are 12.71% down on the same fixtures last year. SL home attendances for games against Catalan are 8.49% down on last year.

London away game attendances in 2013 compared to same fixtures last year
v Hudds... 5273... 6019
v Wigan... 11590...12608
v Salford... 2333... 5250
v Castleford... 4751... 5149
v Warrington... 9681... 11118
v Leeds... 12855... 13109
----------------------------------------------
TOTAL... 46483... 53253... -12.71%
----------------------------------------------


Catalan away game attendances in 2013 compared to same fixtures last year
v Hull KR... 7864... 7142
v Warrington... 10015... 10570
v Castleford... 5205... 5005
v Wigan... 12149... 14464
v London... 1136... 1829
v Hull... 10065... 10765
v Saints... 11111... 13108
--------------------------------------------
TOTAL... 57545... 62883... -8.49%
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Sorry about this, it might sound a bit blunt, I really don't know how to word it... well, the thing is..

get a life.