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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:22 pm  
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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:40 pm  
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So a total admission that the Giants development scheme and academy are a waste of time?
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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:02 pm  
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So a total admission that the Giants development scheme and academy are a waste of time?


:lol:

Sounds like it doesnt it. Micheal Lawrence, the sole product of the giants academy and please gaints fans, dont list a load of players who were promoted to your first team this year. Every club has those, doesnt mean they are any good.
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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:49 pm  
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Sounds like it doesnt it. Micheal Lawrence, the sole product of the giants academy and please gaints fans, dont list a load of players who were promoted to your first team this year. Every club has those, doesnt mean they are any good.



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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:31 am  
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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:43 am  
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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:53 am  
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Sounds like it doesnt it. Micheal Lawrence, the sole product of the giants academy and please gaints fans, dont list a load of players who were promoted to your first team this year. Every club has those, doesnt mean they are any good.


Did you mean 1st team squad?

I assume you are pretending to be this ignorant about player development at the Giants. Surely you cannot be that misinformed.:roll:
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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:36 pm  
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That's down to the RFL and grassroots training rather than anyone club, though I will concede the point that clubs do need to do their part to improve this
Its everyones 'fault'

I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and say that you are not privy to every single training session that Wigan had last year. Therefore you're hardly in a position to make that sweeping generalisation.
and neither are you, so i think we can surely agree to simply take the most obvious and common sense answer as the one we use.
A club coach has one simple remit: win games. Therefore why pick an unproven kid when he has experienced players to chose from?
boom. There it is. Why would a coach pick an unproven kid when he has experienced players to choose from? Why would the next Billy Slater get given his debut if the club has experienced players like Shad Royston to pick from?

Now that was not my point at all. My point was that a player who's got the raw skill and talent will be able to break into a side regardless of age. I never said that they wouldn't be stumbles along the way. The best players are always looking to improve.
except they wont, because as you have just said
A club coach has one simple remit: win games. Therefore why pick an unproven kid when he has experienced players to chose from?


But if the players are of a lower quality than so called "never has beens" then where will the improvements come from?
i think we may as well give up and stop playing the game in this country if we dont have a young fullback at every club in SL who has the potential to be better than Shad Royston.

Better players make for a better league. The reduction of overseas players will reduce the skill and quality of the player pool in this country and will mean teams are forced to play less skilful players just because they're british. You then get players like Sherrife playing in SL even though it's clear he isn't SL standard. But he's british.
no, the reduction of overseas players in increase the skill, number and quality of the player pool in this country. It may reduce the NZ, Australian, Samoan, Fijian, Tongan player pool, but ours will get better. While you may think Sherrife isnt SL standard, what we do know is that he is a better player than had he not played SL

These "BETTER" youngsters that aren't being scouted, where are they? I'm sure there's a lot of clubs that would love to know.
they are in amateur sides never picked up because A club coach has one simple remit: win games. Therefore why take the risk an unproven kid who may or may not make it when he has experienced players to chose from? They are in academy sides never getting a game because A club coach has one simple remit: win games. Therefore why pick an unproven kid when he has experienced players to chose from? and they are in our lower leagues having never made the grade and fulfilled their potential because of a lack of coaching and first grade games after all A club coach has one simple remit: win games. Therefore why invest in an unproven kid when he has experienced players to chose from?



The fact is, without massive investment at grassroots/school levels there's not going to be any sort of increase in the numbers of young lads playing the game. The game in aus is far ahead of us in terms of player development and coaching, so we need to look at that and try and implement similar structures to improve our young players. But again, we DO NOT HAVE the numbers playing the game.
regardless of the numbers playing, the game in Aus is so far ahead of us in terms of player development and coaching because we have so many overseas players, because we dont invest in the youngsters coaching and development, because we dont give them first team games thats why they are better than us at it. If we were to do these things then we would improve our youngsters, and our league, by replacing never has beens like Royston with better youngsters we have created, but whilstever we keep on with players like Royston, Ben Fisher, Brett Delaney we wont do those things. Why? because A club coach has one simple remit: win games. Therefore why pick an unproven kid when he has experienced players to chose from?
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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:14 pm  
All of which is addressed by the RFL introducing an increasing requirement for home grown players in each clubs SL squad, which over time, along with the gradual decrease in quota players and natural wastage of players exempt on grounds of length of service will result in more English players playing regularly in SL games, so what exactly is your beef?
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Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:58 pm  
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All of which is addressed by the RFL introducing an increasing requirement for home grown players in each clubs SL squad, which over time, along with the gradual decrease in quota players and natural wastage of players exempt on grounds of length of service will result in more English players playing regularly in SL games, so what exactly is your beef?


My beef is that the players that the English players that come out of this will be playing in a lesser quality league and will therefore be of a lesser quality themselves, putting us further behind the aussies, but it will then remove the false argument that import players are a detriment to RL in this country.
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