JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
Isn't Normanton equidistant and where Wakefield and Castleford roads meet? In Union both Sarracens and Wasps borrowed heavily to buy their grounds, based purely on projected future incomes and the sales of debentures. AFAIK, Castleford own the Jungle and would get decent coin for it, so your half would be the only real "risk"......but without someone taking a risk, we'll end up either with 2 decrepit stadiums or only 1 side in SL inside the next 10 years because the sort has to evolve
Isn't Normanton equidistant and where Wakefield and Castleford roads meet? In Union both Sarracens and Wasps borrowed heavily to buy their grounds, based purely on projected future incomes and the sales of debentures. AFAIK, Castleford own the Jungle and would get decent coin for it, so your half would be the only real "risk"......but without someone taking a risk, we'll end up either with 2 decrepit stadiums or only 1 side in SL inside the next 10 years because the sort has to evolve
You and I have already derailed this thread rather badly but, the Newmarket Scheme, where land was taken from greenbelt and brown belt to facilitate a new industrial development, which in turn would pay for the Community Stadium, SHOULD have been cast iron but, sadly, WMDC cant be arsed enforcing the agreement . They have gone from denying any involvement to promisuing to build a ground (regardless of whether Trinity were going to use it and we're now in the situation where the developer want to build additional units (which they can sell), rather than build the Community Stadium and despite the ruling at the public enquiry, it seems that WMDC are inclined to let them. It's been six years since it was passed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-20627503
It makes for very sorry reading but, folk like you just keep pointing the finger and blaming the club and it's fans
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Isn't Normanton equidistant and where Wakefield and Castleford roads meet? In Union both Sarracens and Wasps borrowed heavily to buy their grounds, based purely on projected future incomes and the sales of debentures. AFAIK, Castleford own the Jungle and would get decent coin for it, so your half would be the only real "risk"......but without someone taking a risk, we'll end up either with 2 decrepit stadiums or only 1 side in SL inside the next 10 years because the sort has to evolve
You and I have already derailed this thread rather badly but, the Newmarket Scheme, where land was taken from greenbelt and brown belt to facilitate a new industrial development, which in turn would pay for the Community Stadium, SHOULD have been cast iron but, sadly, WMDC cant be arsed enforcing the agreement . They have gone from denying any involvement to promisuing to build a ground (regardless of whether Trinity were going to use it and we're now in the situation where the developer want to build additional units (which they can sell), rather than build the Community Stadium and despite the ruling at the public enquiry, it seems that WMDC are inclined to let them. It's been six years since it was passed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-20627503
My preferred outcome at the end of the Middle 8s would be:
1. Leeds 2. Hull KR 3. Toronto 4. Toulouse 5. London 6. Salford 7. Widnes 8. Halifax
But unfortunately that result will not happen because Salford have signed Jackson Hastings, who has turned their performances around the same way that Catalans signing Joshua Drinkwater turned Catalans performances around.
I now think that the final ladder will probably be:
1. Salford 2. Hull KR 3. Leeds 4. Toronto 5. Toulouse or London 6. Toulouse or London 7. Widnes 8. Halifax
Who would win the MPG if it was between
1. Toronto and Toulouse? 2. Toronto and London? 3. Toulouse and London?
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JESUS WEPT HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.
There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them.
1. Toronto and Toulouse? 2. Toronto and London? 3. Toulouse and London?
Toronto, Toronto and I reckon London would deal with the pressure better regardless, but if it is in Toulouse it would be a closer game than if it were in London.
The winner of this weeks game in London will be the away team in the MPG unless something goes horribly wrong with the form book....if Fax, Widnes and Toulouse lose this weekend, then they will in all probability make up the bottom 3...the following week will determine if Widnes of Fax will finish bottom, Toulouse 6th, London 5th and it's a toss up at the moment between Leeds and Toronto who will finish 4th/5th........the MPG at Leeds will be twitchy bum time for the SL chairmen and the RFL......
My preferred outcome at the end of the Middle 8s would be:
1. Leeds 2. Hull KR 3. Toronto 4. Toulouse 5. London 6. Salford 7. Widnes 8. Halifax
But unfortunately that result will not happen because Salford have signed Jackson Hastings, who has turned their performances around the same way that Catalans signing Joshua Drinkwater turned Catalans performances around.
Hastings wont be playing for next 2 maybe 3 weeks. Bad one that, malicious.