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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:05 pm  
Just looked and when saints played Catalan, there were 82k, so that 10k more than yesterday, Catalans support wouldn't have been near either teams yesterday so that around 20000 less neutrals
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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:30 pm  
Society has changed. Far more people working on Saturdays. London isn't the extravagant big day out for everyone anymore. You've got the Grand Final to compete with (which isn't a negative for the sport) plus the centralisation of the nations media in London over the last 30 years.

Yet we still got 76k there. Pretty good as far as I'm concerned. The final isn't a worry to me. The worry is the semis and the earlier rounds. Got to get them fixed.

Yes Saints v Catalans got a higher crowd but it was the first one back at Wembley, I went to that purely for that fact. I also went to the year after for that reason too. But that factor wears off. 76K is a very good crowd and we should be banging that drum to the media and sponsors. Not bemoaning a few empty seats.
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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:20 pm  
Having a magic weekend has a big effect to my mind, one that the RFL seem not to acknowledge as well as the very obvious positioning of the CC in the calendar.
They could have an all in one ticket CCsemi final/final + MM and GF and possibly Big Bash and sell it with home season tickets with a discount for buying all of them and make it known to all fans that discounts on individual tickets (like the cheap Magic weekend/GF/CC final on offer) will NOT be available for these events bought later in the season. This is why discounted tickets don't work to get more fans, undersubscribed stadiums and fans waiting to get a bargain.

Move it from Wembley, have it at Emirates (Especially if moved to May) Olympic stadium (my preference) or possibly Cardiff
It's not cheap for the RFL to use Wembley either. Move the magic weekend away from Newcastle, it's too far and too big and again £15/£20 tickets for two days games is ridiculous. This only occurs because fans know that the RFL have a big stadium to sell out and can't at the full price. Supply and demand.
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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:57 pm  
Nope. Got to be Wembley. Olympic Stadium is shockingly bad, or it was for the international last year anyway.
Anything other than those 2 stadiums is yet another excuse for the media to ignore us. Plus we consistently get above the 60k capacity of the Olympic stadium for the Cup Final.

The Magic Weekend may well have had some effect on neutrals going but I think it's probably negligible in comparison to the other factors.
This is another example of where we need to be 1 sport rather than a collection of isolated clubs all pulling in different directions. All clubs should be marketing the big events (Cup Final, Grand Final, Cup semis, Magic Weekend etc) all season long not just when they are involved. And there needs to be far, far greater links with the amateur clubs. The RFL should be helping co-ordinate group tickets and travel for amateur clubs along with a cashback scheme as an incentive for the amateur club.
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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:30 am  
It's a good point re: Magic Weekend. It will detract many neutrals from going for the day out to the Cup Final.
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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:28 am  
Apart from the school certain raiser why don't the rfl introduce a minor Challenge Cup for teams in the bottom tier of the leagues and play that before the main event?. Would give supporters of teams in that league the chance of seeing their club on the hallowed turf and could fatten out the crowds?. You could show the game on the red button on the BBC as an option to watching the build up on BBC1.
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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:42 am  
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Society has changed. Far more people working on Saturdays. London isn't the extravagant big day out for everyone anymore. You've got the Grand Final to compete with (which isn't a negative for the sport) plus the centralisation of the nations media in London over the last 30 years.

Yet we still got 76k there. Pretty good as far as I'm concerned. The final isn't a worry to me. The worry is the semis and the earlier rounds. Got to get them fixed.

Yes Saints v Catalans got a higher crowd but it was the first one back at Wembley, I went to that purely for that fact. I also went to the year after for that reason too. But that factor wears off. 76K is a very good crowd and we should be banging that drum to the media and sponsors. Not bemoaning a few empty seats.


The problem is there clearly wasnt 76k in the ground as that number includes Club Wembley tickets who dont show up. And regardless of which version of the number they announce its a number that is in decline.

Does anyone know what happens with Club Wembley after next year? My understanding was the initial 10 year deal is up. Hopefully that means the RFL can sell just the bottom two tiers of Wembley and only open the top tier if needed, when theyce done that for England games the atmosphere has been good.
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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:02 am  
Saturday was an excellent game, superb crowd and a top "event".
RL has done well at introducing The GF and Magic Weekend in addition to the long established CC Final. However, it's probably unrealistic to keep adding to the number of major events and expect that they will all be sell out's.
Sometimes less is more.
IF we still had to old style league with the top club as champions and the big day out was a Wembley final, it would sell out every year but, it's not reasonable to expect the "same" fans to keep emptying their pockets.
The reality is that they will pick and choose their days out.

Of course it's all a balance, between trying to expand the games appeal and "find" new fans but more importantly, we have to expand the fan base.
The Magic event should be the best way of doing this but, it needs moving around the country at regular intervals and some solid marketing to try and bring new fans on board.

Although the inclusion of Toronto and Toulouse into the domestic competition is contentious, there is no doubt that this will increase the sports profile and this should create some interest outside the traditional RL heartlands.

Of course there is no magic formula but, the key is growing the game and increasing the number of people across the country that are willing to pay to watch our sport.
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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:27 am  
The upcoming 4 nations with a game in london will also be a major factor. Saturday was far and away the fewest neutral supporters I've ever seen at wembley
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Re: CC Final views and predictions. : Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:23 pm  
For me 1 they should move it back to may 2 they should fix the early rounds and 3 why should the top teams play less matches to get their go back to what it was, I hope when sky get it thats what they do
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